<p>... and it fell about $6,000 short of the amount i was supposed to receive according to FAFSA. That is, I have to pay $6,000 more than my FAFSA EFC. Can anyone explain this??</p>
<p>Also, is there any way to request more aid?? Is this even negotiable (I applied for EDII and got in)?? or if they don't help me out more, can i terminate my ED commitment because of the lack of financial aid?</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
<p>ouch, if you don't mind me asking how much did you expect? how much did you get?</p>
<p>Your FAFSA EFC is only what the govt thinks you should pay but the schools can end up making their decisions completely regardless of what your EFC is....you definitely can negotiate especially being an ED acceptee....and I believe you can terminate the ED commitment because of lack of aid; it has to be well proven though.</p>
<p>not to be rude, but doesn't every single book on colleges and every single guidance counselor in the country tell kids NEVER to apply ED if they're unsure about financial aid?</p>
<p>my EFC was $2,950; and considering that GW costs like $49,250, there's a big gap... plus, even the fin. aid package included $3,600 in loans, which i don't really consider "aid money" since you've got to pay it bac, heheh :)</p>
<p>juiceisback, i suspected that you could negotiate or even back out if the fin aid was not adequate... so thanks on the info.</p>
<p>stain, i applied cuz i was certain that i would end up there... and plus, if they have "need-blind" admission, it's kinda expected of them to provide aid if it is needed. it's not like i'm not gonna go there if i have to take some loans, it's just that i expected a bit more...</p>
<p>so, are you saying you got about $40,000 in aid? wow.....</p>
<p>yeah, $40,225.</p>
<p>is that all financial aid or is some of that merit scholarship? that's an incredible amount of aid.</p>
<p>no, i got a presidential scholarship too.</p>
<p>it's kind of hard to define "incredible"... i mean, it's all relative.... to me it isn't really incredible 'cause i don't have any money saved up, my parents can't afford to pay anything, and i would like to go grad school (if possible heh)... soooo, i dont know.</p>
<p>Are you still coming for sure? I know that you would have preferred better financial aid, but let's put things in perspective. As you mentioned, GW is expensive. Tuition is upwards of $35,000. On top of that, you must pay for other expenses, like living and spending money. That makes the price about $46,000 a year.</p>
<p>You menioned that your EFC was about $3,000. You have to pay $6000 more than desired. Then, part of your aid is loans-$3,500 of it. So, you owe GW(without the loans) $9000 a year. Even if you are poor, that doesn't seem too bad to me. That's like going to a state school. Most state universities cost several thousand dollars less than that...and you're paying for a private unversity. It's not that bad. </p>
<p>GW was very generous. They gave you $40,000 a year. That's a $160,000 investment by the university. I'm not trying to be insensitive, but I don't think you realize exactly how great your financial aid package really is.</p>
<p>i'm not saying it's not a big package, but at a state school, i'm sure i would have paid just the $2,950 EFC cuz i know their aid program is awesome and they don't offer any loans--it's all grants.</p>
<p>so, let's say, $2,950x4 = $11,800 state school</p>
<p>or GW: $11,000 (loans to cover my part + loans in GW fin aid package) x 4 = $44,000</p>
<p>The difference between $11,800 and $44,000 is huge. Plus, UVA or William&Mary (both state schools) actually rank much higher than GW.</p>
<p>Why did you apply ED if you are that poor? It's common sense. You were taking a huge risk in binding yourself to a school, especially a school as expensive as GW. You should consider yourself lucky. $9000 a year? That's nothing. There's plenty of ways to pay for that. The loans you mentioned were not bad at all. </p>
<p>Stop complaining. You should be happy.</p>
<p>"The difference between $11,800 and $44,000 is huge. Plus, UVA or William&Mary (both state schools) actually rank much higher than GW."</p>
<p>First of all, "state schools" are not as generous as you think with money. In fact, they have less to spend on scholarships because they are public. </p>
<p>Secondly, if you wanted to go to those schools, then why didn't you apply ED there? Are you from VA?</p>
<p>Loans aren't that bad. so what, you have to pay $10,000 in loans after you graduate. That's $2000 over five years. That's nothing to fret or whine about. Get a co-op or full-time job over the summer, or take some classes over the summer at a CC to graduate early.</p>
<p>i never said the aid package was BAD. even if i had to take $25,000 a year in loans, i'd do it, cuz it's an investment that will pay back. i think every HS dropout that works at mcdonalds knows that. i applied to GW cause i knew that going to college in some crappy little isolated town would not get me nearly as far enough as going to GW (at least in politics/int affairs). </p>
<p>i was just asking why was their EFC different from FAFSA's. don't get offended.</p>
<p>I didn't confront you about this before, but now I am just frustrated. Your old posts are extremely contratictory. You claim to have a likely letter from UVA and to be a Georgetown RD hopeful. Either you are making this post up, or you are lying in the other posts. You do understand that you must withdraw your other apps, don't you?</p>
<p>03-08-2005, 07:48 PM<br>
writing a letter to the admissions office... </p>
<p>i had a good shot to get into georgetown but i messed up qute a bit on my first semester grades for senior year. i was wondering if i could/should send in a letter tomorrow to explain my circumstances and to assure them that i will fix it? has anyone else done that? or is it too late?</p>
<p>thanks.. </p>
<p>02-16-2005, 08:14 PM<br>
i got one too!</p>
<p>does anyone know HOW LIKELY it is that you're in???</p>
<p>i'm asking because they might not be happy with my semester grades (a C in an AP class -- is this reason enough for me not to get in??)</p>
<p>thanks for all y'all's input.</p>
<p>dude, i'm sensing so much negative energy from you. what's not clear? i applied to GW's EDII program and got in. I also applied to UVA and Georgetown (for your info, their apps were actually due before GW's). I got a likely letter from UVA in the meantime (wohoo!) and i'm waiting on georgetown to see if i get in and possibly compare fin. aid.</p>
<p>oh, by the way, most people dont throw their money away. if you apply to some school, spend hours and days filling in the app, write essays, get teacher and counselor recs and transcripts, and pay the fee, youre not gonna withdraw, even if you got in somewhere else ED. most people arent that crazy or stupid, you know.</p>
<p>"... Either you are making this post up, or you are lying in the other posts."</p>
<p>i'm sure that all people on this forum would greatly appreciate it if you use your brain first before you start calling other people liars.</p>
<p>GW specifically says:</p>
<p>"If GW is your first choice and you will agree to attend if admitted, we encourage you to apply as an Early Decision candidate. GW has two Early Decision options from which to choose. In addition to submitting all required credentials, ED applicants need to submit the Early Decision Agreement form. If you are offered admission through our binding Early Decision options, you are required to submit a nonrefundable enrollment fee by the deposit deadline and must withdraw all applications submitted to other colleges. Students admitted early decision will receive priority registration for orientation and housing selection."</p>
<p>You are violating GW's admissions policy. Maybe YOU don't believe in ethics, but most Colonials do. I seriously hope that they catch on to you, because you don't deserve this acceptance or financial aid package. You're cheating out many hopeful applicants and breaking GW's legal contract. </p>
<p>Don't you get it? You can't compare financial aid. If you wanted to do that, then you should have applied RD. You either A)withdraw all your apps and go to GW; B) wait out the RD colleges to compare financial aid packages. The problem with the later is that if you decide not to attend GW, you must notify them. They will be angry because you are breaking a legal contract. Your counselor will be upset because GW will hate your school and GW will most likely notify all the colleges you applied to make them aware of your dishonesty. </p>
<p>Do you think UVA will be okay with that? Give me a break. I seriously hope that I don't see you here next year.</p>
<p>Btw, the enrollment deposit was due March 1. You might have already blown your chances.</p>
<p>i'm sorry to break the news to you, but colleges ARE NOT humanitarian organizations nor are they chaired by a board of saints. they're private businesses which provide services which you HAVE TO PAY FOR. </p>
<p>When you fill out your FAFSA and get your expected family contribution as calculated by the Federal government, it is an objective estimate of how much you can afford to pay. Since GW, like almost all other colleges in the US, participates in Federal aid programs (Staffords, Pell Grants, etc), THEY have an 'ethical' commitment NOT TO SCREW YOU OVER when you decide to apply early. </p>
<p>The reason why I created this post in the first place was to find out WHY THEY SCREWED ME OVER FOR SIX GRAND, i.e. how did their calculations suddenly come up with an EFC that it THREE times bigger than the Federal government's. If they had objective estimates and if I was expected to pay somewhere in the FAFSA EFC ballpark, I WOULD NOT HAVE CREATED THIS THREAD at all.</p>
<p>I personally feel that GW has broken a moral expectation which is not to screw students over JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE COMMITTED THEMSELVES TO THE COLLEGE.</p>
<p>And quite honestly, if this is the "ethical standard" of GW and its 'inhabitants', I really am glad that I found out about it now before it's too late. As for my other colleges, they're sure as hell gonna be surprised when I tell them that GW expected my family to spend a THIRD of its total GROSS income (after taxes, it would be even more) a year for my undergrad education.</p>
<p>What is this? Some kind of condescension or jealously or what? I have rarely felt such a high niveau of self-righteousness in a message. Only a couple of people I've met actually measure up to your pharisaic attitude. </p>
<p>P.S.:</p>
<p>"... Maybe YOU don't believe in ethics, but most Colonials do."</p>
<p>No human being is perfect, and neither am I. But who do you think you are? Mother Teresa?</p>
<p>BS86, I applied to UVa as well. I'm just curious, why would you apply to an easier school ED rather than your highest reach?
I don't know much about GW's ED policy, so I'm sure I'm missing something.</p>