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<p>Any chance at all EA UMich</p>

<p>GPA weighted 3.95/UW 3.65</p>

<p>SAT 1330 CR/M
ACT 30 (or if they super score 32)
decent ECs, decent recs, decent essay.</p>

<p>on a scale of 1-10 (10 being your in). OOS</p>

<p>2…</p>

<p>seriously??? That low???</p>

<p>What was (if any) your SAT writing score? What were your ACT subscores?</p>

<p>And if you want to get in EA you should be able to self-describe better than “decent”.</p>

<p>UMich considers the W score correct? (CR is my weak point, W helps my score up)</p>

<p>I would say you have a pretty good shot, so I’d probably give you a 7, 8.</p>

<p>If they take both scores into consideration: ENG 32/Math30/SC31/reading31. Recommendations are actually great SAT writing is 630. Tuning up my essays this weekend to make them great. Thanks for the answers.</p>

<p>i just saw a bunch of decents and OOS</p>

<p>and only 3.65UW GPA … unless you are from a super competitive high school.</p>

<p>My school is very competitive. My curriculum was pretty intense. Anyway, I thought UM no longer recaluated GPA’s</p>

<p>doesn’t like 90% of IA kids get into Michigan? and you are worried while being top 20%?</p>

<p>HMMMMMMMM</p>

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Yeah, they look at your grades and how many AP/Honor courses you took. 3.65 indicates that more than 40% of your grades are B’s.</p>

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<p>Wait, what?</p>

<p>Universities have to recalculate GPAs. GPA inflation with weights (and even without weights. Some school’s -As would be As in other school districts) doesn’t even give universities the option to not recalculate GPAs. . .</p>

<p>I know you asked for chances from 1 to 10, but all I have is one data point. Son had 3.45 unweighted, 3.8 weighted, and 34 ACT. I would say average EC’s and clever, but last minute essay. Son got accepted - applied early, but recommender missed the early deadline, so he found out in the first week that they rolled out the regular decisions. Based on Naviance at son’s HS, nobody the previous year had been accepted below a 4.0 weighted. It was a nice surprise, but he decided on UIUC.</p>

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<p>Given UM’s holistic approach, it’s perfectly feasible that they don’t specifically NEED to recalculate GPAs.</p>

<p>Because of the reasons you stated (grade inflation, difference in cutoffs between A- and A, etc.) GPA is practically meaningless as a comparison tool to other students and can be disregarded in favor of a method that takes a view of courses taken, course difficulty, and grades earned.</p>

<p>^^plus they can look at a school profile and get a pretty good picture of where the student is relative to that particular school. And it’s not all that difficult to look at a transcript and get a pretty good guess at what the GPA is on a 4.0 scale for snapshot comparisons whether or not the GPA is reported as weighted or unweighted.</p>

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<p>I understand what you’re trying to say, but GPAs are far too important to even slightly disregard at a university of UMich’s caliber. </p>

<p>Colleges know more than what they see on a person’s application. They already have some type of information of the applicant’s high school on hand (and if they don’t, it’s only a phone call away). Admissions officers aren’t stupid, and please don’t think even for a second because an admissions officer can’t similarly compare 2 students’ GPAs from different schools, the difference is made up through further disregard. </p>

<p>That’s not logical and it doesn’t happen. >_></p>

<p>I don’t agree with you</p>

<p>The official reason given for not recalculating is that the time it took wasnt worth the negligible difference in the resulting recalculated GPA.</p>

<p>In other words, it’s a waste of time, and even after they recalculate they were still admitting the same kids.</p>

<p>Recalculating is more of a need at a lower school where the number of average transcripts exceeds the number of outstanding ones.</p>

<p>Admissions officers probably never directly compare GPAs and it’s a slippery slope to slide down. They compare grades and courses. It’s exactly why you see the weighted 4.013 student with regular and honors courses rejected and the unweighted 3.81 student with APs accepted. It would be silly to compare those GPAs, recalculated or in their current state.</p>

<p>But I mean really, if you have a large segment of your applicants with an above 4 point weighted GPA, why bother recalculating? They’re obviously academically talented and it’s better to focus efforts elsewhere.</p>