<p>^I take it that you aren't one of them.</p>
<p>Unfortunately gbesq, the vast majority of both Democrats and Republicans will not be directly affected by stem cell research. This is the United States though, and in that case, everyone is entitled to an opinion on the important issues that dictate the course of this country. Most of us may not know an illegal immigrant personally, or have contact with a gay person on a daily basis, but we all have opinions on how respective policies should be handled. It's about the principle.</p>
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<p>I am not opposed to stem cell research. I am actually completely for it. But you are right that I do not have any family members with such diseases.</p>
<p>Beefs/Sheed30,</p>
<p>I certainly respect both of your opinions, as well as the opinions of those who are in favor of or opposed to stem cell research (and other controversial topics) on moral and/or philosophical grounds. My point is simply that it's one thing to have an intellectual belief about the morality of an issue like stem cell research -- it's quite another to watch a family member really suffer from a disease that might eventually be cured by such research, all the time knowing that the family member is going to die a terrible death and leave three young children behind. Under those circumstances, I think it's probable that many who oppose stem cell research on moral and/or philosophical grounds would likely examine their views closely and perhaps change them.</p>
<p>Ah, OP loves Bush...</p>
<p>I'm sorry!!! really sorry!! i hope they can find a cure... :)</p>
<p>beef, respond to me. what were you calling stupid?</p>
<p>70% of the nation does not support the nation. Bush has TRAMPLED on the constitution that the founding fathers worked to create. Don't talk about the fouding fathers in a way that would support Bush. </p>
<p>Could someone tell me what is so wrong with stem cell reasearch and abortion. To me it is just chrisian radicals forcing their beliefs on those of others. Last I checked we were not a christian nation.</p>
<p>oh sorry. i was talking about calling him a racist. </p>
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<p>Sorry, I don't take orders from a 16 year old.</p>
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<p>Abortion is MURDER. That's what is so wrong about it. It's MURDER. </p>
<p>I'm not sure about stem cell research.</p>
<p>i really hate rural illinois & their citizens' ignorance</p>
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<p>I'm going to assume that was directed at me. And Waterloo is not exactly "rural" either. It definitely isn't the State of Chicago (thank GOD) but it isn't rural.</p>
<p>And would you like to explain why the "rural citizen" is ignorant??</p>
<p>hops_scout, what if you were raped and became pregnant? Would you want to give birth to a baby from rape? And what about the health concerns of being forced to have a baby? No, abortion is not always "murder", as you call it. If you think that not giving birth to a baby is murder, then I would say that it's murderous of you for just sitting around at the computer and not giving birth to babies at the moment.</p>
<p>It sickens me that men are the ones who sit around and make decisions for issues dealing with women, when they obviously they themselves will never be affected by those issues.</p>
<p>But that's for another thread. :)</p>
<p>I shall chime in: Bush is an idiot who needs to take some history classes.</p>
<p>But catsushi, if the girl wants to get rid of the baby she can do so without a problem. But if a guy helps her he gets charged with murder while she walks away without a problem.</p>
<p>I also don't believe "abortion=murder" but the way the law is set up at the moment, it's a double standard.</p>
<p>If a woman decides to have an abortion, it's done no problem. If a man kills a pregnant woman, it's a double-homicide. Wait... if the fetus is not a human in the first instance, why is it a human in the second?</p>
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<p>Now I'm just confused. Which is it?</p>
<p>Mike41691,</p>
<p>I don't believe abortion is always bad, but with the way the law is currently written it can also be very confusing. The law calls the fetus a human if an outside force kills it, but if it's done by "abortion" then the fetus is not a human yet.</p>
<p>I'm really not sure where I stand exactly on abortion in general. I do see the pros in certain situations, but I also see the cons in certain situations.</p>
<p>What it boils down to and my main issue with abortion is the double standard that is in place with the laws currently...</p>
<p>Well, hops_scout, then we can argue about what age a baby is when they are considered human or what not. I believe at the moment, a woman is not allowed to abort after a certain number of months has passed. As for the case of when a murder is committed, you need to give me more specific evidence than that. For example, how old was the baby when the person was charged with double-murder?</p>
<p>And I highly doubt it that a girl can walk away from an abortion without a problem. Abortions usually cause tremendous guilt and suffering on the part of the woman, and worse in cases of rape.</p>
<p>And how can you compare a man killing a pregnant woman to a woman deciding to get an abortion? Anyone who decides to murder another person doesn't deserve that kind of mercy. </p>
<p>My point is that abortion should be monitored, but not completely banned, as some conservatives would demand.</p>
<p>Speaking of demanding conservatives, why do they care whether gay couples get married or not?</p>
<p>We call ourselves "free", but sometimes I have doubts...</p>
<p>Catsushi, "no problem" was in reference to the law. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson</a></p>
<p>Scott Peterson charged with the murder of both his wife Laci and their unborn son Connor. Wikipedia says the pregnancy was in its 8th month.</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.officer.com/showthread.php?t=82547%5B/url%5D">http://forums.officer.com/showthread.php?t=82547</a> </p>
<p>Sorry, this one has an article about a case in Texas. I was hoping there was a link on that forum, but I didn't see one. The girl was trying to force a miscarriage. She asked her boyfriend to step on her stomach. Now he's been sentenced to life in prison. The girl, on the other hand, walked away.</p>
<p>I am a girl and to me, abortion does equal murder. In every case. It's a tragedy that it's happening. =(</p>
<p>^^ what if it's self-defense? That's a case when murder is not so bad. One could make a strong argument that a fetus is infringing on the mother's right to life -- as in, it's taking the mother's resources, weakening her, etc. A woman is a wreck when pregnant. In fact, I believe that if a mother is malnourished, parts of her brain tissue will break down to feed the fetus.</p>
<p>The issue is sticky, and really not fit for this thread (or forum).</p>
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