<p>To soozievt, I did. I looked at all the stats fir the colleges that I want. Some of them went up this year and some went down based off their history of admission rates.</p>
<p>NYU - 38%
SUNY Purchase - 27%
UGA - 54%
Columbia U - 10%
SCAD - 68%
Michigan U - 50%</p>
<p>A friend of mine told me the same thing and saying that I might have to go to a college in state that will most likely take me and stay there for a year, then transfer. </p>
<p>Also, I still plan on taking the SAT at least twice. I also want to the ACT as well because I might do better on that than the SAT. Plus, I’ve read about the differences in BA and BFA. I don’t remember much though…</p>
<p>Based off what you guys said, that’s what I told my dad. NYU and SUNY Purchase were practically my dream schools. He still wants me to apply anyway. Plus, I feel really stupid…</p>
<p>Muzick, You can’t just go by % of admits-- you need to see those kids’ grades and test scores. You also have to realize that the kids who get accepted at schools like Columbia who not in top 10% of their graduating class may be the kids of some very famous and important people (not just in the US, Columbia and NYU attract students internationally). So you may be talking about the children of famous actors, presidents of countries, world’s richest people, royalty, important political dissidents – sometimes, even self-interest is at stake. (I know a case where an ivy was trying to hire a world-famous professor and the professor’s kid was applying to colleges the same year.) </p>
<p>One other thing… Do not be too terribly disappointed thinking about all the school which are out of reach. The truth is that you would have a difficult time with the coursework at those schools. That doesn’t mean the kids who get in are smarter or going to be more successful-- just that they are stronger students, better at test-taking, being disciplined, doing math, understanding what’s in the book and writing the papers-- and the classes would be geared to <em>them.</em> You want a school where you can learn, grow and excel-- not a school where you spend so many hours trying to figure out the math or science in a required general ed class that you have no time to memorize your parts. </p>
<p>So take some time to find out about theater opportunities at schools that are less competitive. In life, success depends on <em>you</em> not on the name of the school that granted you your degree. There are aluni from top schools who do not do anything exceptional with their lives and alumni from below-average schools who go on to greatness.</p>
<p>Musick…you are NOT stupid at all! I don’t think that! But every student must pick colleges that match their qualifications. Your qualifications are not in range, for example at NYU, UMich or Columbia. They do not accept people with your stats. You need to develop a college list that fits your qualifications. </p>
<p>If you don’t understand the differences between a BA and a BFA, please read up on it and read the Theater and the Musical Theater forums on CC. You have to audition to get into a BFA and the acceptance rates are MUCH lower than the published rates you gave to the universities themselves. You will have to pay to travel to these auditions. Most who are competitive for these auditions have been training for years and are being coached privately for the auditions themselves. The audition counts a great deal as part of the admissions process. At UMich, you have to be invited to audition after an academic review. At NYU/Tisch, the audition counts 50% and academic review counts 50%. At most other BFA programs, the audition counts more than academics. At some BFA schools, you have to be admitted separately to the university though. </p>
<p>Your GPA and test scores are not in range for most of the schools you listed, and that is before you add the audition component. Even if you get 1050 on the CR/M (that is going up 220 points (which is a LOT in a short time), you can’t get into NYU/Tisch or UMich or Columbia. Add in the GPA, and it is IMPOSSIBLE. </p>
<p>You would do much better to develop a college list where you have SOME chance of being admitted. </p>
<p>I am working with a musical theater applicant who currently has 920 on her CR/M but has an unweighted GPA of 3.8 (much better than yours) and a higher class rank than you. She is not going to be able to apply to NYU or UMich. They are out of reach for her, despite her originally having them on her list. They are definitely out of reach for you. Add in that she has extensive training in this field, and you appear not to have any training and simply have been in a school play (She has a full theater resume). My niece attends UMich’s BFA in Acting program and your qualifications are nowhere near hers in terms of academics, curriculum, or artistic background/training/credits. </p>
<p>Please read the theater and musical theater forums and look for colleges that fit your profile. Please understand the major differences in BA and BFA programs in terms of the programs themselves as well as the admission process, which are drastically different. Also, at many BFA programs, you cannot minor in writing.</p>
<p>Please understand that the acceptance rate for SUNY Purchase, U of Michigan and NYU/Tisch’s BFA programs (all are BFAs) are NOT what you posted at all. They are much much much lower!</p>
<p>Please look at some cold hard facts even about non-audition schools such as Columbia University. </p>
<p>The percent of Columbia freshmen who had a Critical Reading score in the 400s is 0. The percent of freshmen who had a Math score in the 400s is 0. (that’s where you are now) The percent of freshmen with a CR score in the 500s is 3% and the percent of freshmen who scored in the 500s on the M is 2%. Only 10% of applicants are admitted to Columbia and so these percents are of that 10%. Therefore, of 1419 freshmen, only about 5 had a CR score in the 500s and only about 3 had a M score in the 500s. You can bet that those handful of freshmen had something else compelling on their application to override that such as being a minority applicant, some outstanding achievement, or recruited athlete. 97% of freshmen ranked in the top 10% of their high school class. You are not in the top 10% or even top 20% of your class. This is before we add in rigor of curriculum, GPA, your specific grades, and all the other factors that go into admissions. So, this is not my opinion of you or your qualifications. These are cold hard facts. You will NOT be admitted to Columbia. </p>
<p>Please find schools where you have SOME chance of being admitted.</p>
<p>I’ll look up more on BFA and BA.
Someone on my profile posted some colleges for me:
Columbia College (Chicago), Point Park (Pittsburgh), Goucher (Baltimore suburbs/SAT optional school), University of South Alabama, Marymount Manhattan, Coastal Carolina (SC) and Wright State (OH)</p>
<p>But I believe some of these are private schools and I probably won’t get into those either or any, correct?</p>
<p>The closest community college to me is Clayton State. SCAD is a private school as well and I have to audition for it…</p>
<p>I have started to make a new list and I looked up on the differences on BA and BFA.
So far I have:
Clayton State University
Kennesaw State University
Valdosta State University
basically any college jym posted earlier</p>
<p>Are these okay?</p>
<p>EDIT: I would also like to add that I am not a ■■■■■, I am just seeking help on the matter at hand…</p>
<p>I also looked at some of threads in the theatre board. I’ll look into more colleges in my state with a good theatre program but no audition as well…</p>
<p>I see someone put Coastal Carolina University on your to look at list. My D is a freshman BFA Musical Theatre major at CCU. It is a state university, and your SAT scores are within range at CCU. The BFA program is by audition but they also offer a non-audition BA in Dramatic Arts. They do offer talent scholarships in the Theatre department (but I think they are only for the BFAs but not positive about that.) My D just started classes last week but is already loving her classes and the great faculty there. Plus, it is a great location, only 10 minutes from Myrtle Beach. </p>
<p>Glad to hear you are not a ■■■■■. With over a year and a half on cc and few posts, it is hard to tell. </p>
<p>If you plan to attend local schools first (they will also be much more affordable, if you get and maintain a B average and can get and keep the HOPE scholarship) check which have programs that interest you. Another school that many from the south consider attending for theater/drama is Indiana University. You’d still need to bring the SAT and GPA up a bit, though</p>
<p>Have you looked at Clark Atlanta? Your stats are in line with their acceptances. It is private (United Methodist) but they give pretty good financial aid. I have 2 friends who graduated from there and loved it. Their theatre program is BA nonaudition.</p>
<p>Ah, I see. Well my friend signed me up for this site a long time ago so I can ask any questions about my colleges. Never knew I would need it this much.</p>
<p>I’ll look into Indiana and Clark Atlanta. Is Clark-Atlanta considered a HBCU? I also looked up at Wagner (Do you have to audition for that?).</p>
<p>Also, I saw that NYU has a BA program. I was thinking that I stay at the colleges I choose for a year (or two–depends) and then transfer when I meet the requirements. Can I do that?</p>
<p>OP, I just want to send a word of encouragement your way. You’ve received some excellent advice from soozievt and 2collegewego, but I’m sure some of the feedback was tough to read. I admire the mature and flexible way you’re responding. Keep working on that list and learning more about your options. You DO have lots of options, and you ARE NOT stupid. The way you are handling this need for a change in direction says a lot about how smart you are. Hang in there, and keep posting your questions.</p>
<p>I really wanted to follow in the footsteps in my role models like Meryl Streep, Tina Fey, & Kate Winslet. I just want to try hard to so I can succeed in life and make it to the top. Everyone has a different route to where they want to go in life. I’ll have to go down the route that will best suit me and stick with it.</p>
<p>… but the role models you described all came to their acting from different directions. Tina Fey majored in drama at a big State U (UVA) and then went the comedy route at Chicago’s famed Second City. Meryl Streep also majored in drama, but at a smaller LAC (Vassar) before going to Yale School of Drama and beginning her acting career in theater/on stage. Kate Winslet grew up in England, in a theatrical family. All quite different. What is it that you want to do?</p>
<p>Okay, so I told my dad about what I was planning to do and he started saying that I should go to a well known college and that I need to choose at least 3 HBCU’s ; my father went to Morehouse (of which he can’t get me into, he explained, because it’s an all boys school). Then, he said that he can get me into colleges that the majority of my family have went to. </p>
<p>Also my mom and dad wants me to apply for a college now. I don’t think I should, I think I should wait at least until I do my SAT and ACT again. Shouldn’t I wait? I also want to apply for financial aid…</p>
<p>As for talking to my counselor, my dad is planning on doing that sometime this week or next. He’s a little peeved that they didn’t put me in the SAT prep class that him and my counselor arranged. Also what are some good ways to study for the SAT. My lowest was Math…</p>