<p>yeah southern illinois...</p>
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I've lived in a couple different places so I'm going to go ahead and say that you all just want change
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<p>Naw, to be honest, I hate change, which is why I want get out of the Chicago suburbs and go back to the ole home on the range.</p>
<p>which one suburb do you live in?</p>
<p>if its the north shore...i can agree</p>
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loslobos: Yeah, I know some people that live in the blue ash/Indian hills area (Mainly through JSA Conventions). It's about 15 min away or so.
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<p>kool. He just graduated from Country.</p>
<p>AH I LOVE THIS THREAD.
i'm in the north shore, my extended family's in cincinnati.
it's too true-- nothing to do (unless your overprotective parents let you escape to the city), everyone goofs off in high school, goes to u of i, finds a nice trophy spouse, settles in naperville.</p>
<p>nurturing is nice sometimes, but seriously, get me the hell out of here.</p>
<p>so true...</p>
<p>i live in iowa.</p>
<p>everyone loses.</p>
<p>I live in death's waiting room...Noone is happy. :P</p>
<p>I live in the graveyard of the Atlantic, anyone know where that is?</p>
<p>I live in the burbs of chicago (or as I affectionately refer to it, Chiburbia) and I have to say after being to other places in the midwest, the burbs seem so much more cosmopolitan and exciting. Of course, the burbs cant compare to Chicago itself, one of world's best cities and hidden secrets in my opinion.</p>
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<p>I'm very sorry to hear that, as Iowa stands for "Idiots out Walking Around."</p>
<p>I live in rural Ohio, and trust me, nurturing isn't always good. I can't tell you how many times I've had people tell me to eat more so I'm not so skinny or how they know this Uncle Such and Such who can play guitar just fine without reading music, so anyone should be able to do the same. Who needs lessons? I can't wait to get out of the sticks and move someplace exciting, where you don't have to debate your dinner plans which include a choice of the 3 restaurants you can get to within 15 minutes.</p>
<p>I live in California, but I have lived in KY before, and Illinois is better than KY (if Chicago wasn't there, it would not be). Kentucky is alright, except, people can be somewhat racially intolerant (which I cannot stand), and cannot drive!</p>
<p>The suburbs sound exciting to where I live in Eastern Washington (state) besideds small towns there's nothing but farmland... And I definetly need out of here, and get into a different pace.</p>
<p>Word up for Jersey.I actually really dislike New Jersey, but compared to many other boring states(Sorry Montana, Iowa, Wyoming, Idaho, all of Washington but Seattle and so on...) it is not terrible. I still want to leave it though don't worry.</p>
<p>See, I live in a small town (well like 10,000). My dad grew up in the same town and I have numerous relatives that live near me. I always meet people whose parents knew my uncle's girlfriend etc. Thankfully, since my town is growing it is moving away from that sort of stuff, but it is still annoying.</p>
<p>Wyoming, all of Washington but Seattle</p>
<p>Wyoming is rather nice. I take it you've never been to Jackson Hole?
Also, Washington state overall is one of my favorite states. Besides some of the smaller towns, Washington has a lot of great places to live and visit plus close proximity to the rest of the west coast and also to Canada (esp. Vancouver)</p>
<p>wow, there seems to be a lot of midwesterners on this board.
haha
East Coaster over here</p>
<p>I live in a suburb of nyc, which I hate, but it isn't THAT bad...I spend a lot of my time in the city. I definitely want to live in a city when I get older...I love the feel.<br>
and I don't think I could ever live in the midwest, save for Chicago or something...or any rural area for that matter. I like to be close to where I want to go...the movies, restaurants, boutiques, etc. Plus I tend to pair the Midwest with overly conservative, old fashioned, extremely religious Christian beliefs, and intolerance...which would aggravate me. </p>
<p>About the "old money" thing...I don't really get it. What do you guys mean? Like, sure it exists, but it doesn't affect you if you aren't in that social circle...why does it matter?</p>
<p>alamode,</p>
<p>just like you associate the midwest with "overly conservative, old fashioned, extremely religious Christian beliefs, and intolerance," many midwesterners associate the east with old money, materialism, and rudeness...</p>
<p>i know...i get the "materialism and rudeness associations," but i don't understand the "old money" association. I get how someone from the midwest might be put off by "materialism and rudeness," but I don't get why they would be put off by the fact that there are certain groups of people that are considered "old money" and stuff.<br>
"Materialism and rudeness" would affect you if you lived there, but "old money" wouldn't...</p>
<p>I guess I'm trying to figure out is what mid-westerner's think is bad about the presence of "old money," because you wouldn't know people who were part of that if you weren't extremely wealthy yourself.</p>
<p>On the other hand, more people here might be materialistic than out west (I wouldn't know...I haven't visted much of the west), but I don't think we're rude. I think that this is an impression that comes off because daily life is more impersonal in a city than in a rural area. Like a shopkeeper might not know your name, or greet you, or make small talk, but it isn't because he/she is being rude...it's because he/she is busy and has a lot of customers. But people hold the door for you, say thank you, please, etc. I think nyc is one of the most "polite" cities I've been to.</p>
<p>the thing about old money is that it is commonly associated with a sense of entitlement, lack of a work ethic, and other things that don't really mesh with the american dream. this country, and the midwest especially, like to have these romantic notions of people rising from rags to riches based on ingenuity and hard work alone. and, old money really isn't that. there are virtually no positive stereotypes of people with old money.</p>
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I guess I'm trying to figure out is what mid-westerner's think is bad about the presence of "old money," because you wouldn't know people who were part of that if you weren't extremely wealthy yourself.
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i go to harvard, and i am not old money at all (maybe noveau riche if your generous, but definitely not old money). i can honestly say that you see the byproducts of old money everywhere. the kids that think they can do whatever they want or step on whomever they want, with no regard of common courtesy. maybe it's because i'm from the midwest, but it seems to me that the old money people i have interacted with have embodied rudeness and materialism. and, even if you weren't apart of their social circle, their antics still affected you...</p>