I really dont know

So I’m a high school senior with a 4.0 gpa weighted 1430 sat with 770 math and 660 English. I have taken ap physics C, 2 English, U.S, calc BC, computer science, government.

I really want to go to University of Michigan (I’m from NY) do you think I have a good chance of being accepted? If not what university could be a good safety?
I want to double major EE and CS.

P.S I’m Latino with a low income :slight_smile:

(asks gently) if you get in, how are you going to pay for it? UMi for OOS students is $60K+ / year & there is not much going in the way of scholarships for OOS students

My daughter with same uw gpa and high scores was wait listed at Michigan along with her school’s valedictorian. Engineering for OOS is brutal. My daughter got a lot of merit from RPI and Clarkson and both offer financial aid as well. Plus you have the SUNYs for safeties.

Apply & see what happens ! Good luck !

You are competetive and have the modest advantage afforded to high achieving Latinx students. The cost will play a role. And you are applying for two highly selective majors within a selective school. Not sure if um differentiates between majors or just the various schools within the uni

Not to be funny but I really don’t know either. But good luck and keep working hard. Education is a path not a destination.

Congratulations on your hard work and success!

UM is extremely competitive. AND you are a very reasonable candidate. Apply and see how it goes.

The financial side is important too. You’ll want some schools that are “safeties” in terms of admission and are likely to be affordable. Even if accepted at UM, it might not be affordable. Often public universities are less generous with financial aid to OOS students.

Here are some options:

SUNY/CUNY schools will offer your best bet. I’m sure someone else here or your college counselor could help you with the best schools for you in this system and scholarship opportunities, which do exist. I just don’t know much of anything about them.

Google “colleges that meet full financial need”: these schools at least claim to meet full financial need for all accepted students. Note they might be “need aware,” so acceptance might be more challenging; they might, in the end, want you to pay more than you can. But it’s a good place to start. Depending on your UW GPA, you might, for example, take a shot at Cornell or Northwestern. Lafayette College would certainly be a great possibility. See how much they’ll give you.

How did you do on the PSAT? You might be eligible for this scholarship (if it’s not too late for where you are in the cycle):

https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/psat-nmsqt-psat-10/scholarships-and-recognition/national-hispanic-recognition-program

Here’s a merit aid chart for Miami of Ohio: (Note they super-score for admission AND aid. Note the early deadline to be considered for merit aid. This is true at some other schools.

http://miamioh.edu/admission/merit-grid/

Calculate what you would get at Iowa State, which is an excellent STEM school:

https://www.admissions.iastate.edu/scholarships/freshman_award_calc.php

Same with New Mexico State, looks like you could get $16k plus per year (OOS Competitive Award) and stack that with a $2k one year NMSU housing award. Not sure about more.

http://engr.nmsu.edu

https://fa.nmsu.edu/scholarships/

You can calculate for Arizona State here:

https://scholarships.asu.edu/estimator

Good luck!

https://finaid.umich.edu/new-undergraduates/non-resident-students-and-financial-aid/

See if the above makes sense for your family. If accepted you can get a lot of aid but instate is usually always cheaper. Remember if you want to be an engineer then become one. The place you do it should not define you.

As @TTG said above Iowa State is a great program and gives a good amount of aid. Plus it’s a fast acceptance but a hard program.

Michigan State honors gives like half scholarships for honors with your stats and a research position and stipend. You might qualify for more also.

Start talking with the financial aid department and let them help guide you if it makes sense.

“If not what university could be a good safety?”

U.Michigan is not a safety for you, and is probably not a safety for many out of state students.

“with a low income”

I would be surprised if U.Michigan is affordable for you given that you are OOS.

I would look at the SUNY’s and CUNY’s first. Unfortunately I am not the person to suggest which ones, nor do I know how they are for need based financial aid. Fortunately your guidance counselor is likely to know the SUNY’s and CUNY’s very well, as will others here on CC.

Sorry just reread this. Michigan only takes unweighted GPA. A=4,b=3 and so on. Recalculate your GPA and see what it is. Even with a good math score the English score is low. Make sure you express interest to your regional counselor and visit Michigan at school fairs etc. See when they are coming to your area. Write a great essay

There’s a lot of misinformation above about FA for OOS students. FA at UMich is excellent for low income students, even if they are from out of state. Apply for admission and apply for FA.

Secondly, being Latino will not be an admissions advantage anywhere in the state of Michigan, since it is illegal in that state to consider race or ethnicity in admissions decisions.

I think you are in the ballpark. What’s your unweighted GPA?

Apply to SUNY Buffalo as your safety (the university, not the college). http://engineering.buffalo.edu/

These are SUNY Buffalo’s ABET-accredited engineering programs:
Aerospace Engineering
Biomedical Engineering
Chemical Engineering
Civil Engineering
Computer Engineering
Electrical Engineering
Environmental Engineering
Industrial Engineering
Mechanical Engineering

Also take a look at Union College:
https://www.union.edu/
Fun fact: It’s new president is an African American man who was a first-generation college student.

Case Western isn’t necessarily less of a reach than Michigan, but being URM would help there, where it won’t at UMich, so it could be worth a try. Case has terrific flexibility between/among majors so there isn’t the issue of securing direct admission to your desired major. And they meet full financial need. Seconding Union as well - also a full-need-met school. Lehigh is also in range and recruits URM - consider applying to their Diversity Achievers Program when the 2018 application opens. https://www1.lehigh.edu/admissions/undergrad/visit/dap

Run the NPC’s on all the schools you’re considering, and see how the bottom line compares with your out-of-pocket at the SUNYs - you do have excellent in-state safeties there.