I suddenly have doubts about Obama.

<p>Ok first of all many people have jumped on this bush hating bandwagon cos its now somehow cool to diss the president. I will agree bush is not very bright, and is definetly not the best pres. But the fact of the matter is that he has not messed up this country. yeah the economy is "going down" but it always does at some time. Its also concepts like universal healthcare that really put me off. The idea is some dumb, not enough time to discuss it as i have a final to study for tommrow lol . I want democracy and freedom, thats why i don't want hilliary and obama. They will tax the living daylights outta everybody.
For me between h.c and obama, its like chosing the lesser of the two evils.</p>

<p>Not messed up the country? Our large national deficit, families of dead soldiers, and people who are upset that we have alienated our former allies may tend to disagree.......</p>

<p>A-Card, your posting is so untrue and full of ramble i dont even know where to begin...</p>

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-she cried to woo voters in the NE primaries

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<p>Cried? Really? That was crying? A slight crack in her voice, a blink and a two second pause is crying now? Well, dang, I don't know what they've been teaching me in acting class then.</p>

<p>why is everybody judging hilary on the tiniest matters, like some high school election? so what if she cried? so what if she's desperate? they are probably all desperate; some are just much better at hiding it.</p>

<p>well then begin somewhere and tell me your "truth".
WIth the whole thing that Bush lied to us. Well he did not. He was given information from usually reliable sources, and defiently sources that know more than him, that wmd's are in iraq. Imagine you are president and you hear from reliable sources that a country like iraq with a leader like sadam has wmd. You gonna just sit there? The controvesry of if the start of the iraqi war as good or bad is over. Its already done, can't turn back time. the question is Should we just leave in the middle? Yes war suxs, but can we leave right in the middle?
Just fundamentaly i disgree with the democrats anyways since i do not like much gov. interference with the economy.
Anyways what are obama's plans?</p>

<p>In her own words...</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/09/opinion/08dowd.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/09/opinion/08dowd.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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“I actually have emotions,” she told CNN’s John Roberts on a damage-control tour. “I know that there are some people who doubt that.” She went on “Access Hollywood” to talk about, as the show put it, “the double standards that a woman running for president faces.” “If you get too emotional, that undercuts you,” Hillary said. “A man can cry; we know that. Lots of our leaders have cried. But a woman, it’s a different kind of dynamic.”

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<p>The</a> Swamp: Hillary Clinton cries in Connecticut</p>

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"Well, I said I would not tear up; already we're not exactly on the path," Clinton said with emotion after the introduction.

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<p>Big</a> Head DC Hillary Explains the Cry Heard ‘Round the World</p>

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While on the campaign trail today in New Hampshire, FOX News Channel’s Major Garrett caught up with Sen. Hillary Clinton and asked her about her teary response to a New Hampshire voter’s question earlier in the day. “We have gone through years of male political figures who have done everything from cry to scream who have been our presidents.” explained Clinton.

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they are probably all desperate; some are just much better at hiding it.

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<p>totally agree. </p>

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so what if she cried? so what if she's desperate?

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<p>theres absolutely nothing wrong with crying, imo, but the fact that it happened days before the most pivotal primary at the time calls in to question her integrity.</p>

<p>In the first and third quote, she was responding to the media's attack on her supposed crying. She could say, "No, I did not cry and any person with an understanding of what crying entails would clearly see that," or she could say, "Fine, call it crying. If a male politicians cries, it shows that the leader has emotions and is relatable. If a woman cries, she's weak. Why?" Which is the better strategy? I maintain that she did not cry. Had Obama or McCain or any other candidate done the exact same thing (a slight voice break, a blink, a two second pause), I would still say that person was not crying. In fact, I'm sure that most politicians have at one time or another done the egregious deed of blinking and taking a pause. She wasn't crying. I don't support her but I also don't support using gender stereotypes in an attempt to undermine her campaign.</p>

<p>As far as the second one goes, I don't see how that's related. I never said that Clinton never ever ever has ever cried but regardless, "tearing up" is a far different thing from the big baby crying fit she has been charged with having in New Hampshire.</p>

<p>Obama has lost my support this past month, and I wish our state could have another primary election --- however, I wouldn't vote for any of the candidates of the major parties. I partly blame school and the media for not really educating us about Obama. Why does the dirt (pastor, terrorists, Chicago politics, etc) come out after the primary election? I like him as a person, but I've come to agree with others that there's little substance to what he says and he distorts issues (like the recent "appeasement' blame on Bush). He seems just another politician. I have also been disappointed in finding out, on my own and still doing research, that he hasn't been the great senate unifier and leader that has been portrayed by his campaign. Bush and Congress are responsible for the condition of our country. Obama will likely win the presidential election, but I'm concerned his move from Senator to President is too soon.</p>

<p>I'm very concerned that either, Hilary, Obama, or McCain may win this next election.</p>

<p>obama will smash on oregon today</p>

<p>and Kentucky.</p>

<p>I'm not going to reply to the ridiculous stuff about Obama, but I would like to point out that McCain isn't experienced either. He's been in the House or Senate since 1982, and has never really managed anything other than his own staff (he did command a training squadron for one year--1976). He's been married to a millionaire wife since 1980, so he's not exactly in touch with the problems of the little guy. I guess he has more Washington experience than Obama, but neither of them has the kind of managerial experience that a governor, or even the mayor of a midsize city would have. As a result, I'm inclinded to go with the guy who (1) agrees with me on more of the issues and (2) seems pretty clearly to be smarter. In this case, that's Obama on both counts. Sure, he's not perfect, but he's way better than the alternative.</p>

<p>cottonwood...Clinton will definitely win Kentucky....</p>

<p>Clinton will win Kentucky, but it won't matter. Unless some horrible scandal about Obama breaks, she's done. But a couple of victories will enable her to withdraw gracefully.</p>

<p>DONT trust anyone who doesnt have an American sounding name</p>

<p>What, because the American-sounding ones have all been so great?</p>

<p>George......</p>

<p>A-Card,</p>

<p>Your defense of Bush essentially "exonerates" him of his duplicity by way of his gullibility. Is a stupid president that much better than a deceitful president? And what are these "reliable sources" you speak of? Hans Blix? Joe Wilson? Scott Ritter? Richard Clarke? All of these high-level officials adamantly stated that Iraq had no WMD capabilities. When you have that kind of opposition to a prospective war, you're not allowed to cherry pick information that suits you from the likes of Donald Rumsfeld or some inept British intelligence agency.</p>

<p>Bush has an approval rating lower than Nixon's was at the height of Watergate. I suppose nearly 80% of the country is Bush-bashing merely because it's the cool thing to do, right? Has nothing to do with Iraq, Katrina, the economic crisis, and the endless scandals.</p>

<p>The whole "racial thing"? Obama has done nothing in his career but try to bridge distrust among all races. If a few words by his pastor scares you that much, then you, frankly, are a coward. Stop being so frightened of the Black man.</p>