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<p>1) The word is “physicist.”
2) Not all non-Christians believe in the Big Bang theory.<br>
3) Prove yourself right. (not a chance)</p>
<p>Yes, I’m talking to you. You grouped physicists together with atheists and nonbelievers (which are separate in and of themselves.) </p>
<p>Judging by this topic and your responses, it’s pretty obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about. This isn’t a black and white issue; you’re not either a believer in the Big Bang OR your Christian version of God. </p>
<p>These are all rudimentary questions that an uninformed person would ask. I’ve got no problem with that. But when you come barging in and already have all the answers, then yes, I do have a problem. Go ask this question on a religion or philosophy board and you’ll be torn to pieces.</p>
<p>Guffaw at “Physicians.”
I wonder what that makes people who are in Chemistry called…RNs?</p>
<p>Pandem, I love you.
Lobzz, I think you really ought to read “The God Delusion” by Richard Dawkins. Get back to us when you finish.</p>
<p>I’m a Christian. I believe in evolution and the Big Bang theory. Tadaa. They can coexist. And, I would suggest you read “The Language of God” by Francis Collins (and “Get back to us when you finish”). arrogant jerk… </p>
<p>yeah hahahahahah… my friend read that out loud… I was watching a show (not doctors) and it said it so I typed it… I meant physicists.</p>
<p>Before you ask for people to prove you wrong, prove yourself right.</p>
<p>I personally believe that science and religion are two separate issues. (But if you yourself can find a way for them to coexist, then feel free :] ).
Science is based on testable hypotheses. God is not testable. The Big Bang is. </p>
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That’s where you went wrong my friend. You were talking about two “sets” of people…
If you’re so adamant about categorization, why are you trying to convince the majority of us who don’t fall under your self-defined “sets”? And people within your little “sets” are not bigoted as you make them seem.</p>
<p>It’s really pointless to argue either way. Get educated, create your own beliefs, and go on with life. Or can you not live without knowing that you have created a legion of robot followers who were persuaded by your intellectual opening sentences?</p>
<p>I dont know what im talking about? I’ve read the qu’ran in English and Arabic thank you very much… same thing with most of the bible and who doesn’t know about The Big Bang… If God didnt create anti-matter and all that… well… Was it any one of the parents on CC?.. maybe Gcf101 or some other poster?</p>
<p>@fairy_dreams: you’d be surprised at the number of Big Bang believers and pious people on CC.</p>
<p>Congratulations, you’ve read 2 religious books. Next up, the other 100,000 religions. </p>
<p>The burden of proof is on you. That means that if you make a claim, you’re the one who has to prove it. I can’t just say; there’s a microscopic teacup floating around the Earth. It’s impossible to prove me wrong, but that doesn’t make me right. I have to prove that it is infact up there. Now apply that to your proposal.</p>
<p>Again, you’re glossing over a vast number of people in the world. You need to step out of your regional and cultural bubble and realize that there’s are millions of religions in the world. When you talk about “God”, which God do you mean? The Christian God? Islamic? Jewish? Buddhist? Hindi? Norse? Roman pagan?</p>
<p>God is faith, and atheism is faith as well, in that it cannot be logically proven that God does not exist (even if there is strong circumstantial evidence). People have reasons that they do or do not believe in God, but neither viewpoint can be logically proven or disproven.</p>
<p>Here’s a brief breakdown of Non-religious people (again, just generalizations)</p>
<p>Strong Atheist: There IS no God/gods.
Weak Atheist: I have no opinion on whether there is a God / gods.
Agnostic Atheist: I don’t BELIEVE there is a God /gods, but I feel that it’s impossible to know.</p>
<p>There’s no such thing as an agnostic. But not “knowing” (as in, not having a belief) you are by definition an atheist.</p>
<p>As you have no doubt concluded, “strong” atheism is just as unprovable as any religion. There aren’t really any weak atheists anymore. People who don’t think about religion often, and natives who don’t have a religion fit into this category. Listen to this video about a tribe in S. America with no religious beliefs, and how they converted a Christian missionary.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr3q6Cid1po&feature=channel_page[/url]”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr3q6Cid1po&feature=channel_page</a></p>
<p>So, the only positions that make sense logically are either;</p>
<p>Agnostic atheism - I don’t believe in a god, but admit that it’s impossible to know either way.
Agnostic theism - I believe in a God, but admit it’s impossible to know either way.
Deism - I believe a God / gods created the world, but have nothing to do with any religion on Earth. As in, someone or something made all of this, but it’s impossible and illogical to believe any of the religions out there.
<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism</a></p>
<p>@pandem: Aren’t Christians, Muslims, and Jews ULTIMATELY the same but with different ideas? </p>
<p>im sorry if I was rude, offensive, or intolerant to anyone. I honestly didnt mean it… I shouldnt have done that and I didnt mean to make anyone feel bad. Sorry, Pandem, for calling you what I called you… But lets all keep this from getting any more counter-productive… What I meant was… Assuming its C/M/J vs. Big Bang team (lol)… Why can’t it be both?</p>
<p>(No offense to any other Religion)</p>
<p>You just have to understand that it’s infinitely more complicated that what you’ve been exposed to. Again what about the rest of religious people? </p>
<p>As to your original question;
The main reason that some people can’t have both is because the traditional Christian / Jewish / Muslim creation beliefs directly conflict with evolution and the Big Bang. Adam and Eve, etc.</p>
<p>Most normal religious people tend to rationalize and change their views depending on the scientific views of their day. Before Darwin in the 1800s, Christians believed that the creation story in the Old Testament was true. With the advent of science, the majority of religious creation stories have obviously been debunked.</p>
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Actually I’m not. I’m one of them myself (a Big Bang believer that is…) :] I wouldn’t consider myself pious though. </p>
<p>haha. Glad you acknowledged it Lobzz. Let’s keep it PG, we’re all innocent high schoolers here.</p>
<p>When I say God does not exist, I say it with as much conviction as you would say that unicorns do not exist, or magical gnomes or fairies or.</p>
<p>For a lot of people, religion fill in the holes where science cannot venture. As pandem said, many people change their views depending on scientific discoveries. Take Deism for an example. During the Scientific Revolution some people who were raised as Christians found that they could no longer believe in biblical miracles etc…</p>
<p>Well, you’re wrong, as usual (I kid, I kid.) I can say, taking in all the evidence, that any RELIGION on this planet has a 99.9% chance of being false. But I still can’t know for certain.</p>
<p>That said, I can’t prove that the world wasn’t created by some DIVINE BEING. It’s merely that the evidence presented here, on Earth, isn’t good enough to justify belief in any of the worldly religions.</p>
<p>You have to separate religion and the concept of a higher power.</p>
<p>This is what gets to me… I believe in god but I’m not in any way religious… I hate how its a 50/50 chance. Will our belief in god be in vain? Will science prevail? Lets jump to the other end of the river… What if science is just another one of god’s creations. Will all atheists go to hell? Do you see what I mean? It’s nerve-wrecking… The possibilities… The piety… The physics… endless… Does anyone feel the same? even remotely…</p>
<p>I do, but not that extreme. I was once an athiest for a month. I felt alone and insecure so I “switched back” ■■■■■, pathetic, I know.
I’m not religious at all, but I feel good when I believe in god because it takes alot of weight off of my shoulders. I can rely on a god to help me with things, “blame” him when I feel depressed. It’s stupid, but thats how I feel.</p>