<p>I was having a conversation with a person and i assume that they are either Brown students or are interested in Brown. Whatever the case, during the process the individuals insulted my faith and said that i was intolerant or somehow promoted hate on the basis of the fact that homosexuality is morally wrong. I tried to tell them that Christianity teaches ppl to love ppl reagardless of there differences and that i would never treat a gay person any differently, but they said that somehow that was hate or intolerance, the funny thing is that I from a personally experience know gay ppl and i am friends with one, but i guess ppl like that hate.
This lead me to think that i might like Brown bc if i could help ppl to understand that CHRIST teaches us to love ppl and change perceptions that somehow any part of CHRIST would be hate, then that is a school i would love to go to.</p>
<p>Never mind i think i wouldn't want to go to a campus that has ppl who are filled with such hate and intolerance that they would mock other ppls religious and personal opinions. I just feel kinda sad bc i did like brown.</p>
<p>I think you'd find yourself rather challenged at Brown.</p>
<p>Honestly, your defense in the other thread sounds like one devised in an insular community where no one would really challenge that world view.</p>
<p>Not that that's a knock on you, it's fairly common before college for people not to have experience with someone who can really challenge and does challenge their assumptions, but I wouldn't be so quick to call Brown intolerant of your religion just because you started saying very poorly supported arguments that are actually thinly veiled as academic and religious hiding an ugly intolerant center.</p>
<p>In all truthfulness, making demographic arguments about the "strength of society" based on birthrates may pass at a university like Bayola but at Brown that can easily be ripped to shreds. It's not really worth my time to engage people about these things on the internet, but I can promise that any top university would be a wake up call. </p>
<p>If your argument for a thesis on a final paper was as weak as your discussion in that other thread, you'd earn a C.</p>
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<p>i dnt thnk thts any srt of revlatn dbate. For some reason Christians think others don't get it. We get it. </p>
<p>Anyway, I strongly encourage you to jump out of your homogenous bubble of Sugarland and go somewhere - anywhere - and learn who you truly are and instead what you've been raised to be.</p>
<p>Homogenous? Sugarland probably has one of the most diverse communities in America, wiki sugarland there is such a high proportion of immigrants that there is every thing here. I would tell you to get out of your bubble and realize that ppl can and do have different opinions and that we live in America where ppl are surrounded by difference.</p>
<p>"...that i was intolerant or somehow promoted hate on the basis of the fact that homosexuality is morally wrong."</p>
<p>your use of the word "fact" in this sentence is rather unsettling. It is not a fact that homosexuality is morally wrong, but merely your opinion. That is a difference I'm not sure you've fully comprehended. This is why you'd have a hard time at Brown, not because others are "intolerant" of your views but it is clear that you take your own views about religion/life to be fact and then base them off of very weak arguments and when someone challenges you on it, you get defensive and say they are "demeaning your faith." They are not, they are merely challenging you and you have not stepped up to the challenge. At a place like Brown where you'll meet people from all over the world with views completely different from your own, if your going to present your opinions as fact and aren't willing to rationally discuss them with another student on campus (let's say a gay hindu who's pro abortion) you're going to be ripped to shreds.</p>
<p>O no. I totally confused Sugar Land for Paris.</p>
<p>This thread and the previous threads with wolfman, modest, and ClaySoul make me really excited to attend Brown this fall (go Brown '12!!) because I can't wait to be surrounded by people who can articulate their feelings and be able to engage in a debate without letting their emotions control their thinking... thanks guys!</p>
<p>That's awesome! how nice. you'll be on college hill soon enough.</p>
<p>I haven't read the other thread, but have this to say based on this one: There is a lot of diversity at Brown, but most students are liberal, probably assume that everyone around them is liberal, and tend to accept a wide range of behavior. There are plenty of openly gay people on campus. </p>
<p>I believe Brown students will accept different perspectives, and would not ostracize someone who is, for example, conservative. But I don't think students would appreciate being proselytized to by someone who not only believes differently than they do but feels that his or her mission is to convert others to their belief system.</p>
<p>Dbate, if you are not comfortable with the gay lifestyle, with living with or sharing a bathroom with someone who is gay -- and who is happy about being gay -- then Brown is probably not the place for you. There are many other colleges that would probably not be the place for you, since college students tend to be a pretty liberal bunch. So you might want to think very carefully about what type of college you will feel comfortable attending.</p>
<p>Bob Jones....</p>
<p>yup Bob Jones is for you man</p>
<p>People at Brown don't hate particular faiths. There are plenty of individuals here who are quite religious---but it's a personal thing. One of my closest friends here is quite religious--Church on Sundays is a big thing for her and she references how her beliefs shape her other views, but she sees it as "her" thing and not something that others necessarily want to share or believe in. She also loves learning about other religions and will attend Hillel(as a non-Jew. Teehee.) just for the educational experience in it. I would say that her attitude is representative of most people at Brown.</p>
<p>I feel like I should know this as a semi-Jew, but of what exactly does Hillel consist?</p>
<p>Religious views should be freely discussed, insulted and criticized just like political views or scientific views.</p>
<p>Negru: I agree, but there is a big difference between a discussion/debate and someone whose goal it is to convert everyone to their beliefs. In the end, people have to be able to end the conversation believing that they agree to disagree, and then feel comfortable eating a sandwich at the Gate together.</p>
<p>That doesn't work too well when they disagree with your sexual preferences.</p>
<p>thecomisar-- Hillel is a combination of a place where religious services occur and where social activities occur. There is a ton of programming open to Jews and non-Jews in a beautiful space on Angell Street.</p>
<p>It's hard to explain, but it's worth checking out.</p>