I want a career in journalism, for sure, but I don't know....

<p>If I should major in Journalism or English.</p>

<p>Now on the surface it seems an easy decision, but there are a lot of criteria that need to be met for me and my family when it comes to choosing colleges. First of all, I am an African-American Male Junior in Pennsylvania, if that helps at all. Here are my stats:</p>

<p>1110 SAT (for now, working on bringing that up on Mar. 12)
0 SAT II's
0 AP's (no AP curriculum at our school, No rank, nothing like it)
3.0 GPA</p>

<p>My criteria are basically as follows:
-Racially, economically Diverse environment (think Swarthmore)
-SOLID academics
-On the East coast, and not far North (Not NY=too cold, no Cali, Minnesota, arkansas, Canada, etc.) Strictly PA, MD, GA, AL, NJ, etc.
-Still can't decide between small LAC or medium size Uni. </p>

<p>Basically, when I thought about my list and criteria, I added a little "think Swarthmore". At this moment, I realized that Swat met all my criteria. It was already on my list, but It just occurred to me to simple ask for more schools like Swat that match my 'desires'.</p>

<p>Anyway, here's my rough list:(Note: some of these don't match my criteria. If so, let me know. My ears are wide open)
-American University
-UNC-CH, Charlotte, Greensboro
-Georgia State University
-Hampton University
-Howard University (I do want at least one HBCU on my list)
-Davidson College
-Delaware State University
-Swarthmore College
-Haverford College
-Temple University
-U Alabama
-U Georgia</p>

<p>If you need more info, just ask. But for now, here's my list. I am looking for comments on my list and/or suggestions that meet the above criteria, sure, but I'd MOST like a response to my topic with support for your response. Not just a quick "journalism" or "english", but more along the lines of a "journalism, because blahblahblahblah..." Thank you all. I appreciate all responses.</p>

<p>well of your list of schools the following are reaches given your weaker stats,</p>

<p>davidson, swarthmore, haverford, UNC CH unless in state, and american.</p>

<p>the others are good schools though.</p>

<p>are there any that I can consider safeties?</p>

<p>bUmP (10 K@r@K7Ur35)</p>

<p>Journalism for several reasons. First, it's hard to find a job with an English degree, it's just not the easiest thing, because when it comes down to it, your potential job is going to go to someone who has a more specific major than just "english". Journalism might be competetive, but you know what jobs are open, and it's a more technical skill than just english. Secondly, if money is an issue, there are more scholarships for blacks in journalism than in english. Thirdly, even if you do something that isn't being a journalist, having that ability to write, which you may or may not get as just an english major is so important out in the real world.</p>

<p>Deleware state or georgia state, if you are in state your chances are even better.</p>

<p>I just posted this on another thread, but I'm going to repeat it here - you could ask many of these same questions in looking at an English program (i.e., is the emphasis on writing or on literary comparison, etc.). </p>

<p>When looking at ANY journalism program, there are a few important questions to ask:
(1) is the curriculum emphasis on actual "real world" journalism skills? (Many "communications" programs are more theoretical than practical)
(2) What percentage of the faculty has "real world" experience, i.e., they've actually been journalists or in communications? (You want a program where a higher percentage have experience and working knowledge, not just theoretical knowledge)
(3) What opportunities are there to work in campus media? (At some schools, getting a reporter or editor position at the student newspaper or radio station can be very competitive)
(4) How up to date is the equipment in the program? (Esp. important if you are interested in broadcast journalism) Are the facilities adequate for the number of majors? (If you never get into use the facilities because they're tied up for grad students, they won't help you)
(5) How many opportunities are there for journalism internships? How many students actually do internships? Is it realistic to combine an internship with the level of academic effort required? How do you get internships?
(6) What size are the classes? How much writing and editing do you actually do in the classes? How good are the professors at giving you feedback about your writing and editing?
(7) What is the career placement office like? Does the journalism program have its own career placement/advising program or do you go through the school's "general" career office? Where did last year's graduates end up working immediately after graduation? Where do alumni work?</p>

<p>I have a few suggestions for you. First, skim thru the book "What Color is Your Parachute". There's a million editions (new one each year), but any one that's at your library is fine. The reason you want this book is because it talks about "informational interviewing", where you find out what's out there and how to get into it. This is exactly what you need to do. Call the local newspapers and media in your area, explain you are a HS student and would like to do an informational interview. You might be surprised but most people are going to be happy to talk to someone thinking of their field, and they aren't going to worry that you're just using this as a pretext to beg for a job because you're only a HS student (hence safe).</p>

<p>Now for some things I'd suggest investigating. Why major in journalism? You can get plenty of writing experience in most majors, and a major outside of journalism will give you a skill that stands out and makes you valuable in some area. If you majored in international studies, for example, you would have expertise that would help you explain world events. Poli sci could be useful for government reporting, history is broadly useful, a science degree for reporting on technology, and so on. You can have any major and still write for the campus paper, get internships with local media companies, and so on.</p>

<p>Bottom line, I think plenty of journalists enter the field with a major other than english or journalism, and such a background might prove more helpful.</p>

<p>bumPaLumPa</p>

<p>It's very important for a journalism type to have experience on the school newspaper. Read some of the student papers usually accessible form the college's website and see how you could imagine yourself writing for them.</p>

<p>good advice... never thought about that.</p>

<p>Around ten years ago, George Will wrote a column wherein he stated his belief that all journalists should be history majors (I think he said politicians should be, as well). I think he's right. They learn to do in-depth research and to document it carefully. They hone their expository writing skills. They develop historical context with which to understand the world they are reporting on. You can learn the trade of journalism working on the school paper and for local newspapers while you're still in school. I began my college career in a J-school, and switched to English, and then to history, where I finally found what I wanted. Although I don't work in journalism any more, I did it for several years after college. The other thing to consider is, j-school is very limited in scope, and if you change your career plans, you may regret having taken such a specialized major. As an experiment, why don't you read the bios of the writers at the major newspapers and newsmagazines next time you're reading their online additions, and see what their educational histories were. The quote below is from the American Historical Association.</p>

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What Skills Does a Student of History Develop?</p>

<p>What does a well-trained student of history, schooled to work on past materials and on case studies in social change, learn how to do? The list is manageable, but it contains several overlapping categories.</p>

<p>The Ability to Assess Evidence. The study of history builds experience in dealing with and assessing various kinds of evidence—the sorts of evidence historians use in shaping the most accurate pictures of the past that they can. Learning how to interpret the statements of past political leaders—one kind of evidence—helps form the capacity to distinguish between the objective and the self-serving among statements made by present-day political leaders. Learning how to combine different kinds of evidence—public statements, private records, numerical data, visual materials—develops the ability to make coherent arguments based on a variety of data. This skill can also be applied to information encountered in everyday life.</p>

<p>The Ability to Assess Conflicting Interpretations. Learning history means gaining some skill in sorting through diverse, often conflicting interpretations. Understanding how societies work—the central goal of historical study—is inherently imprecise, and the same certainly holds true for understanding what is going on in the present day. Learning how to identify and evaluate conflicting interpretations is an essential citizenship skill for which history, as an often-contested laboratory of human experience, provides training. This is one area in which the full benefits of historical study sometimes clash with the narrower uses of the past to construct identity. Experience in examining past situations provides a constructively critical sense that can be applied to partisan claims about the glories of national or group identity. The study of history in no sense undermines loyalty or commitment, but it does teach the need for assessing arguments, and it provides opportunities to engage in debate and achieve perspective.</p>

<p>Experience in Assessing Past Examples of Change. Experience in assessing past examples of change is vital to understanding change in society today—it's an essential skill in what we are regularly told is our "ever-changing world." Analysis of change means developing some capacity for determining the magnitude and significance of change, for some changes are more fundamental than others. Comparing particular changes to relevant examples from the past helps students of history develop this capacity. The ability to identify the continuities that always accompany even the most dramatic changes also comes from studying history, as does the skill to determine probable causes of change. Learning history helps one figure out, for example, if one main factor—such as a technological innovation or some deliberate new policy—accounts for a change or whether, as is more commonly the case, a number of factors combine to generate the actual change that occurs.</p>

<p>Historical study, in sum, is crucial to the promotion of that elusive creature, the well-informed citizen. It provides basic factual information about the background of our political institutions and about the values and problems that affect our social well-being. It also contributes to our capacity to use evidence, assess interpretations, and analyze change and continuities. No one can ever quite deal with the present as the historian deals with the past—we lack the perspective for this feat; but we can move in this direction by applying historical habits of mind, and we will function as better citizens in the process.
History Is Useful in the World of Work</p>

<p>History is useful for work. Its study helps create good businesspeople, professionals, and political leaders. The number of explicit professional jobs for historians is considerable, but most people who study history do not become professional historians. Professional historians teach at various levels, work in museums and media centers, do historical research for businesses or public agencies, or participate in the growing number of historical consultancies. These categories are important—indeed vital—to keep the basic enterprise of history going, but most people who study history use their training for broader professional purposes. Students of history find their experience directly relevant to jobs in a variety of careers as well as to further study in fields like law and public administration. Employers often deliberately seek students with the kinds of capacities historical study promotes. The reasons are not hard to identify: students of history acquire, by studying different phases of the past and different societies in the past, a broad perspective that gives them the range and flexibility required in many work situations. They develop research skills, the ability to find and evaluate sources of information, and the means to identify and evaluate diverse interpretations. Work in history also improves basic writing and speaking skills and is directly relevant to many of the analytical requirements in the public and private sectors, where the capacity to identify, assess, and explain trends is essential. Historical study is unquestionably an asset for a variety of work and professional situations, even though it does not, for most students, lead as directly to a particular job slot, as do some technical fields. But history particularly prepares students for the long haul in their careers, its qualities helping adaptation and advancement beyond entry-level employment. There is no denying that in our society many people who are drawn to historical study worry about relevance. In our changing economy, there is concern about job futures in most fields. Historical training is not, however, an indulgence; it applies directly to many careers and can clearly help us in our working lives.

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<p>thanks, and BUmP</p>

<p>buMP (10 characters)</p>

<p>I think Carolyn's post is especially valuable. And I might suggest majoring in journalism AND English, if English is something you're especially interested it. I wouldn't recommend majoring in just English with plans to become a journalist.</p>

<p>U Maryland might be a good option for you. It's got a well-respected journalism program, pretty diverse, solid academics; might be too big for your tastes.</p>

<p>I would suggest journalism, with a minor (or even two!) in history (good post, driver) and maybe one other area that truly interests you also (e.g., studies in an area like Africa, Latin America, or East Asia). </p>

<p>The reason I suggest journalism is that you will benefit from having internships and job opportunities in journalism. The journalism profs will be the ones most likely to help you get those internships and jobs.</p>