<p>(Right after I posted this in admissions forum, I realized that it belongs here better)</p>
<p>I think I have a better credentials than him without hooks. But he does have double legacy at Yale. Since he is still a very strong applicant, if he applies EA, he will probably get in. I think the schools all claim to have no quotas for individual regions, but from an article about Harvard admissions, these elite colleges all have regional admission officers. Would you say that I have a considerable disadvantage if I applied EA with my peer (and his double legacy)? Should I perhaps aim for EA Harvard instead (not that it will be any easier, but just without the double-legacy competition)?</p>
<p>I don't think it can be said that any very strong applicant will probably get in, even with a double legacy. Remember, they reject a lot more legacies than they accept, so lots of strong legacies aren't getting in.</p>
<p>While I do not believe there are quotas for individual regions, all the elite colleges like to say they have entering freshman from every state. The reason there are regional admissions officers is to give some logic to the traveling schedule of the officers when they go out in the summer and fall to make presentations to high school students. The regional officers also have a feel for the high schools in their region and can compare and contrast them (it can help you to come from a struggling school as much as a high achieving school). I think bringing this level of understanding to the table is harder if admissions officers aren't assigned to particular regions.</p>
<p>In any event, apply EA where you would be happiest. And don't stress out too much about your classmate. Yale could very well accept both of you and it could very well reject both of you.</p>
<p>If you wish to apply SCEA, you should do so. Two kids from my D's very small school (graduating class of ~65) applied SCEA (including my D), and both were accepted. Later, a 3rd student from the class was accepted RD. So, if you have stellar candidates, I suspect Yale "overlooks" the whole quota thing.</p>
<p>If you are equally qualified, his chances of admission to Yale, as a double legacy, are three times better than yours, it is true - 30% as opposed to 10%. The admit rate for SCEA applicants to Harvard is around 20%.</p>
<p>Byerly's stats are wrong (as they often are), because they do not take into account head-to-head competition but merely state that 10% of all students who apply to Yale get in, whereas 30% of students who have parents who went to Yale get in. </p>
<p>But at many schools, if a student is taken for development purposes, the school will also take a better-qualified applicant in the interest of fairness. Having a double-legacy apply can actually (sometimes) help your chances.</p>
<p>"But at many schools, if a student is taken for development purposes, the school will also take a better-qualified applicant in the interest of fairness. Having a double-legacy apply can actually (sometimes) help your chances."</p>
<p>Hmm. I am pretty doubtful of thisi practice... Sources?</p>
<p>Mr. Pink, the review of that book is hilarious: "Too benign to generate gossip in the guidance counseling/college admissions world and too superficial for social scientists' attention, the book's real audience is parents who will read anything that might give their kid an edge."</p>
<p>My D had a double Yale legacy high school classmate who also applied EA, whereas no one in our family had ever gone to Yale. The other girl was also a top-notch student and a friend. </p>
<p>They both got in.</p>
<p>Just be sure you (a) have a realistic shot at getting in and (b) really want to go to Yale (or wherever you may be considering applying EA).</p>
<p>"While I do not believe there are quotas for individual regions, all the elite colleges like to say they have entering freshman from every state. The reason there are regional admissions officers is to give some logic to the traveling schedule of the officers when they go out in the summer and fall to make presentations to high school students. The regional officers also have a feel for the high schools in their region and can compare and contrast them (it can help you to come from a struggling school as much as a high achieving school). I think bringing this level of understanding to the table is harder if admissions officers aren't assigned to particular regions."
That's weird. Somebody from Yale came to my school to talk to students that were interested in attending, and said that they always take at least ___ students from West Virginia.</p>
<p>this year i applied scea, with the only other early applicant from my school being a double legacy. we were both deferred initially, but in the end i got in and she didn't... i hope that is encouraging.</p>
<p>Yale will take the most qualified applicants that they can find in the selection process. Obviously they're not going to take all of their students from one region but having one kid from your school who might get in before you is not going to hurt your chances. My school has had more than 10 kids or 10% of the class go to Yale in a single year so you probably shouldn't worry about how your friend does and just worry about making yourself a more attractive applicant by writing great essays and nailing the interview.</p>
<p>Go for it! My child also applied EA along with another student who was a single legacy. On paper, my child was a little stronger - but both were superb students. Both were initially deferred and my child was accepted and the legacy was not. We were shocked to say the least. </p>
<p>Harvard will not have EA next year, so that's not even a possibility. Have your other apps ready to go if you get deferred and just see what happens. I also think while the percentages are higher for acceptance EA, they are deceptive as most recruited athletes are approached at that time.</p>
<p>If Yale is your dream school - do it and hope you see the Bulldog in December or April!</p>
<p>Ok, legacy does help quite a bit, but not THAT much. If you're more qualified, they'll give you just as good a shot! Go for it!!!
(I'm a legacy who applied and got in, but another guy from my school w/o legacy also got in.)</p>
<p>The year I applied to Yale there were 8 people applying early. 2 people had legacy connections. One was a double legacy and had a sibling who attended, and the other was a several generation legacy (his father, grandfather...). They both got in SCEA as did 3 other people. If you both are qualified, and Yale wants both of you, they won't take one of you and reject the other. Plus, there are several thousand other people who will be competing for the same spot you want so... having one kid from your high school who is a double legacy and also applying would be the least of your problems (if you were thinking about things that way.)</p>