<p>Hi my name is Julia. I'm going to be applying to NYU, I want to study music production and engineering. I really think I'd like to be a successful music producer, but I would like to have engineering in my tool belt as well because i think every producer should know about it. The problem is, NYU offers basically two programs for it. At the Tisch School of Arts in the Clive Davis Institute of Recorded Music, and in the Steinhardt School which they have Music Technology. The Tisch School program offers more of a production oriented major that also covers a lot of music criticism, history, and business as well, and the Steinhardt is more music engineering oriented with a lot of music theory. When you graduate, for the Tisch School program, you'd get a bachelor's in fine arts and in Steinhardt you'd get a Bachelor's in Music.
So my questions are:
Which one is better for what I'd like to pursue?
Which one will help me get a job easier?
Will the difference in the Bachelor's degree make a difference when it comes to finding a job?</p>
<p>Hi Julia, I don’t have the info you are looking for but thought I would throw a contact out for you. There is a CC member that was choosing between NYU’s programs and USC last year. Her username is 27dreams and she is a freshman at USC but knows a ton about the Clive Davis program. I am sure she looked extensively at both NYU programs and could be a good resource. Just go to advanced search and put her username in (or look at last years final decision list) and pm her.</p>
<p>It sounds like both programs are in the right ballpark. Is there reason to rule one out now? You could apply to both and, if accepted, make your decision which program is the best fit.</p>
<p>NYU only lets you apply to one. If you are not accepted, then you are not in Any NYU program unless the admissions department makes you an offer of another program (usually CAS students offered spots in their 2 yr liberal arts program with guarantee to the CAS in Jr. Year.</p>
<p>Check the master list of acceptances this year- I believe there is someone attending the clive davis program.</p>
<p>jfrost, Clive Davis is very competitive but when we visited the program our sense was that there was less emphasis on traditional music skill such as theory and more emphasis on elements of contemporary/popular producing – which didn’t necessarily mean DEEP technology, per se, but involved technology. Our take could be all wrong, btw (my son attends UMich SOM now in Performing Arts Tech, a program with pretty deep emphasis on the tech end of things but within a rigorous music school.)</p>
<p>You might be best to visit and sit in on classes and talk to CURRENT students in both programs (27Dreams did not choose to attend Clive Davis) and see where you fit best.</p>
<p>My son’s background was trumpet performance in both classical and jazz with a healthy dollop of composition and recording/sequencing experience and a deep portfolio.</p>
<p>One thing about the program we found odd at the time (2009) was that a) the film students told us there wasn’t much collaboration for scoring across departments considering both were at Tisch and b) the music curriculae seemed a little on the light side – eg. made us wonder why the department was not under the auspices of Steinhardt.</p>
<p>At the same time, the program seemed ideal for a performer/singer/songwriter who also wanted to be knowledgeable for self-producing or producing others – eg. business element.</p>
<p>So, what’s your actual musical experience & focus, what kind of portfolio can you pull together, etc – these are questions that might help you sort out the nuances.</p>
<p>A BMus means you will have a certain number of credits in theory and musicology and a certain amount of studio/instrument time. A BFA is also a professional degree in it’s orientation toward specialization and hands on studio work. You could in theory pursue a masters with either degree, but if you thought you’d pursue a masters in music, might find the BMus more likely to be in sync with pre-reqs.</p>
<p>Thats not what I heard. My roommate is in Clive Davis and he said all students are exposed to every aspect of the industry (engineering, producing, business, journalism, etc) and you have the option to go further in your area of focus. As for the collaboration, I know my roommate has worked with Tisch kids in film for music videos and actors for scoring shorts.</p>
<p>^it is indeed the robust breadth of exposure that I’m referring to, so you’re not actually disagreeing with what I said 
But by attrition, when you are taking all those courses, there is less room in the schedule for some of the bmus foundation courses and a shorter sequence in engineering/programming than can be found in other programs. So like everything else, fit depends on focus. And the question is, what is the poster’s focus?</p>