<p>the 7 year biodental program at penn gives students great opportunities to become a dentist, but also, they said the following institutions also offer this program:
College of Arts and Sciences of the University of Pennsylvania
Hampton University (Hampton, VA)
Lehigh University (Bethlehem, PA)
Muhlenberg College (Allentown, PA)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (Troy, NY)
Villanova University (Villanova, PA)
Xavier University (New Orleans, LA)
and i look up these schools, that the students from these schools later come to penn after 3 years to complete their 7 year dental program and get a “penn” degree!
i found this unfair, b/c most of us here work hard to try to get in to penn, while these students get in to those colleges easier and still end up the same as us. I know my opinions seem strong and very unorthodox or watever. But i thought that everyone who is applying for the program should know about this.
plz correct me if i am wrong. I still love penn, that’s never gonna change :)</p>
<p>wow, i wasn't going for that program but i would be ****ed if i did go to penn for 7 years and these punks from other schools show up. i think transfers should not be allowed for the prominent colleges period. people work their butts off to get into the ivies and colleges in the top tier and it's unfair that people from less competitive colleges are able to conveniently transfer.</p>
<p>lol
exactly what i thought Canadia1, but it's worst than you think!!!!
they don't even have to transfer!!!
they are automatically admitted to penn (i read) after 3 years at those schools, without much requirements, except one test that i think penn students have to take as well</p>
<p>ahhhhh! but then again, i'll probably be the reject who will end up going to one of those places... :'(</p>
<p>i'm trying not to have a heart attack right now. why does college admissions have to be so stressful??</p>
<p>I think you guys are blowing this out of proportion. I belive most of those programs are relatively competitive. People actually have to apply to the 7 year programs to be guaranteed a seat in Penn Dental. It's not as if they're guaranteed a seat just by getting ADMITTED to Lehigh or Villanova. And getting admitted to these 7 year programs is pretty competitive, from what i've heard: theres an interview and everything.</p>
<p>The admission of the people getting into Penn's 7 years program after being in another college for 3 years is harder than admission of those who go to Penn right out of high school.</p>
<p>You are not quite getting the way the program works. There are many such programs in engineering, pharmacy, maybe in medicine though they are being phased out. There will be many of you at Penn who will drop the program enroute and those who make the qualifications from those other school will be top kids from there. The criteria is not easy. Anyone who get through the classes with the grades certainly deserves to make it. If you find those kids have it better or it is unfair; think a moment about the other opportunities you have at Penn, an ivy even if you don't continue with the program or don't make the grades necessary to go on. You are still at Penn. That is what you get. These other kids still have to earn their way into Penn.</p>
<p>thanx jamimom, i get it now, thanx, i am slow :S</p>
<p>while we are on the subject, its the same way with tri-con. compared to penn, brynwar is way easy to get into. and compared to penn, haverford isnt that hard to get into. supposedly tricon kids get preference wehn transferring...</p>
<p>canadia1, i think you need to relax and realize that transfer students can't just walk into penn and that they can very well contribute more to academic life at these top universities than you may think.</p>
<p>when i was a senior in high school i applied to several schools for engineering and architecture (uva, georgia tech, tulane, a few instate schools, etc) but settled on clemson university due to financial reasons. however, going to a school with lesser prestige in state for a year has given me time to really focus on what i want to do with my life. </p>
<p>often times it is during that first year in college when many students realize through the experience of a college environent what they are truly interested in. for me, i thought i could just keep taking art courses and engineering courses and be happy, but i'm not. i'm driven to pursue the product design emphasis in penn's mechanical engineering degree. i learned through a rural college setting that i must live in an urban area to grow and make the most of my undergraduate experience.</p>
<p>i do applaud those who figured this stuff out a year before me, those who will not try out one college environment before realizing it's not for you. but honestly, even with a 4.0 college gpa, being 5 credits away from junior standing after 1 semester at my instate school, ranking of 6/380 in my high school class, submitting a detailed art portfolio with my application, and making a 1380 (yes, it's low) on my SAT, i can't just walk into penn. in fact, i'm probably just an average applicant with that SAT score.</p>
<p>transferring is no convenience!</p>