<p>Does anyone else hate when people say this?</p>
<p>Its probably a defense mechanism to protect one’s ego. Everyone does this.</p>
<p>Screw others think about yourself</p>
<p>Thats true happiness</p>
<p>It’s probably true. PLENTY of people could get 4.0’s if they actually tried. That’s why I look down on the tryhards who have high GPA’s and study their ass off. Same thing with people who take 30 SAT practice tests. That sort of stuff doesn’t prove anything except that you care wayyyy too much.</p>
<p>I don’t even have a 4.0 but I just think its annoying</p>
<p>“It’s probably true. PLENTY of people could get 4.0’s if they actually tried. That’s why I look down on the tryhards who have high GPA’s and study their ass off. Same thing with people who take 30 SAT practice tests. That sort of stuff doesn’t prove anything except that you care wayyyy too much.”</p>
<p>The smart kids in my grade, including me, tend to look down upon the tryhards who have 97+ averages, but aren’t intelligent in any way. I you give them a math problem the teacher didn’t show them how to do, they don’t even try. They can’t think for themselves. It’s more irritating for me to see this than to hear people say they could get 4.0’s. I know they couldn’t get 4.0’s, but these kids have 3.95’s just because they try wayyyyy to hard.</p>
<p>^So you de-value effort? What kind of crazzy trench have you dug yourself into?</p>
<p>You’re going to find it hard to deal with life.</p>
<p>A bunch of people try to study hard in my school… and still don’t succeed.</p>
<p>I think our val is pretty much the only guy who makes it look easy.
He sleeps in every class… but gets it done easily.</p>
<p>I value effort. </p>
<p>Here’s an example of what happens everyday.</p>
<p>Teacher assigns 4-6 page double spaced paper on some menial topic. They write 15 pages double spaced. Now the standard for an A becomes 15 pages, when original paper, if well written, only needed to be 4-6 pages.</p>
<p>^Okay that’s overdoiiiiiinnnggg it. I guess they’ll be the ones that will have a hard time dealing with life. Just wait till they get to college :)</p>
<p>The brilliant violinist who practices > the mediocre violinist who practices > the brilliant violinist who doesn’t practice at all and skates by on talent alone.</p>
<p>Those who become successful are generally those who are both diligent and intelligent. Those who are just talented … well, they’ll be in for a rough time when they get to college and realize they’re not the sharpest tool in the shed anymore. (And also when they realize that nobody cares.)</p>
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<p>This is the best line in this thread. When you compare Bill Gates to Christopher Langan, you think of Gates as more successful. The latter guy, by the way, is the smartest man in America. He works on a farm. No one gives a damn if Chris can get a 4.0 “if he studied”. The point is that he didnt. Period. Hypotheticals aren’t very effective or convincing. Life is never that predictable. NO ONE GIVES A DAMN WHAT YOU CAN DO. PEOPLE CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU DID DO.</p>
<p>Plenty of people have 4.0’s even when they don’t study or do homework. It’s hardly impressive.</p>
<p>The “I could’ve gotten 4.0 if I did my homework” is exactly my excuse. I thoroughly believe that 75% of students who to go school have the potential to get 4.0s if they just studied and turned in all their homework. This is also why I look down upon those who believe that the kids in honors/AP classes are the smartest in the grade. Sure they may be smarter on average, but I know a bunch of kids in “dumb” classes who are smarter than many of my honors friends.
@PioneerJones, each school is different. Some value homework more, hence the aforementioned excuse. For example, I turned in about 50% of my freshman math homework, still got 97+ on all my test and quizzes, yet I still attained straight Bs for my Algebra II class. My point being, some places you may get 4.0s without doing your homework, but some places you may not.</p>
<p>^ I agree, but I tend to think EVERYONE* has that potential. It just becomes a matter of choices that decreases the “chance” of getting a 4.0. </p>
<p>*99.9%</p>
<p>Wait, people who are <em>smart</em> are seriously that critical of kids who try hard and get good grades? Sounds kind of pathetic to me. I’m a “naturally smart” kid, and I honestly look up to kids who try so hard.
Not even just try hard kids who get 90s, I had a friend who stayed after school every day for two hours to work on Geometry with the teacher for an hour and a half, then take a self test in the library. Then she went home and took another. I know because she asked me to grade them, she never bragged about how much she did, and she had to do that much work just to get 60s at first, then slowly her grade went up into the 80s.
That’s fricking amazing, much more amazing than some ******* who was born being able to do things doing them at minimum input.</p>
<p>wanton, i like kids like that. if they put in effort to understand something that’s great. i should work that hard. look at my previous post, those are the kids im talking about.</p>
<p>and chris langan had a few hard breaks when he tried to go to college. twice i believe.</p>
<p>yeah, “trying too hard” shows you’re willing to do the best you can to succeed. not everyone is naturally very intelligent (Christopher Langan had some good genes). don’t put down people like that. ability and effort go hand-in-hand.</p>
<p>Imagine if us kids actually did decide to apply ourselves. I did at first, then I had an entire freshman class hating me because I was a dick about it… so I slacked off.</p>
<p>This is me. I don’t really ever study and I’m lazy when it comes to homework.</p>
<p>I devalue intelligence all together, because for the most part, I don’t think it’s very important.</p>
<p>People who work harder will almost always have more success than a lazy genius.</p>
<p>People who have 4.0’s and who try really hard… I think that’s a credit to them and they deserve whatever good things come their way. People who could have a 4.0, like myself, but never tried that hard, we don’t really deserve to get nice scholarships and get into good schools, because we really didn’t earn it.</p>
<p>It annoys me more when people who have 4.0’s look down on others who don’t. Just because they’ve spent more time on school doesn’t mean they’re better people. It just means they’ve worked harder in that area of their life.</p>
<p>I’ve always hated the idea of intelligence. I think it falsely puts this idea that a “smarter” person is a better person. And then you end up with gifted/talented classes… the “dumb” kids feel bad about themselves for absolutely no reason. Intelligence does not matter unless you use it well.</p>
<p>I applaud those of average intelligence who have 4.0’s and who have worked hard over the person who just skates through school and gets a 4.0.</p>
<p>This comes from someone who was classified in the top 1% on an IQ test. I think it’s all crap and they should stop testing kids for it all together.</p>
<p>I hate tryhards that have done it for their whole life because their daddy made them. </p>
<p>I think the kids that had the intelligence to want to improve because they want to have a better life are an inspiration.
I just wish I had realized this before Junior year.</p>