<p>funstuff’s got it. </p>
<p>the only reason anyone would be mad at someone who has the same success as them despite doing less work is because they are jealous. although intelligence isn’t a constant at all.</p>
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<p>I’m laughing at this kid’s idiocy. You think you deserve special treatment because homework doesn’t help you? Since when did the world cater only to the top students? All classes are centered to treat the majority. I don’t receive music that I can play and others can’t in orchestra - the conductor picks something suitable for the majority. Will I complain about it? No that’s the way things are and should be. You’re just really self centered. Not to mention most AP classes are just reading, filling out sheets/busy work in general was mostly a middle school thing. </p>
<p>Secondly, intelligence is hardly relevant to your work life when you’re older, unless if you are a scientist or something. </p>
<p>Thirdly, EVERYONE HAS WORK ETHIC? Yeah then why doesn’t everyone get a 2400, it just takes work ethic right? Anyone can do it. Your perception of work ethic is terribly skewed by your own laziness. Tell yourself tomorrow that you’ll read ahead in your AP textbook and take a full SAT practice test. See if you can make it through that without whining to play some call of duty. LOL@ anyone can work hard. Only few have the motivation, ambition, and determination to do it = truth</p>
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<p>People will only do something if they believe that the effort it takes is worth less than the result. If they don’t get a 2400 on the SAT, they believe that the effort it would take to get a 2400 is worth more than the satisfaction and admissions benefits they would get from a 2400. However, if they had to work on something they enjoyed, they would be much more willing to expend effort.</p>
<p>I have never said this, but it’s probably true for me haha. But honestly, that would be a really annoying thing to hear. Study or don’t study, don’t make claims about how much better you are/could be than everyone else.</p>
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<p>No. That looks like “I’m too lazy to do anything but I could have done it if I tried” dressed in fancy language. </p>
<p>Everyone can say that they COULD HAVE done it, but only few say that they DID it. The difference is huge</p>
<p>Pure intelligence is only as good as the inventions that are brought from it. It’s a well-known fact that even natural intelligence is not enough for real-world success. Hence, naturally intelligent lazy people will FAIL.</p>
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<p>anyone can work hard. anyone can CHOOSE to put effort into something. everyone has a work ethic. the success of this work ethic is what differs between people. </p>
<p>obviously not everyone gets a 2400 because of a combination of their intelligence and their decision to WORK HARD and do so. you can be really intelligence and not study and get the same mark as a less intelligent person who busted their ass. such is life. </p>
<p>why should we cater to the majority instead of choosing more difficult work and inspiring other people to rise to the occassion?</p>
<p>PurplePotatoe. The vernacular you squirelled away in the vat of molting fail you call a post was impressive but, the bare content was pretty much an ill conceived attempt to say “people need to do B.S calculations before they can judge whether or not, they should put effort into something”. Listen now and listen well, my meekly minded colleague, a good work ethic results from motivation. Unintellectual people have the motivation that if they don’t study/work hard, they will make bad grades. Intellectuals on the other hand see no reason to study because their brains will soak up the material no matter what they do thus, they don’t have a motivation to work hard. The thing is, in the long run having a good work ethic will trump natural talent. Heck, this even applies in the realms of athletics, people who train everyday but don’t have natural talent, will in the long run trump the naturally talented athlete who doesn’t train as much. </p>
<p>IF, An intelligent person and an unintelligent person have the same work ethic than yes the intelligent person will come on top but, as i said, intellectuals are not motivated to do this and less likely to have as good of a work ethic.</p>
<p>@Wax, Why shouldn’t we cater to the majority? Should we just have a select group of smart people and then have everyone else as a idiot? Think before you talk, you smug elitist. </p>
<p>/end rant.</p>
<p>So who’s ready for doughnuts?</p>
<p>Why should the most intelligent not be treated differently? You’ve obviously never been in a class (regents level in NY) where you are far enough ahead in the material that you are literally bored to tears in the class. Treat it like the “Talented Tenth” by WEB DuBois, but for everyone. We need to rely on the top “talented tenth” of our country to bring us back to the top, and menial homework does not help. (we could also use some of the talented tenth to teach young people, since currently 47% of HS teachers were in the bottom 1/3 of their college class.)</p>
<p>Math, Trust me i’ve been there and trust me homework helps. All the AP homework i got helped further reinforce material i already knew but, i did it because I’M NOT LAZY. Many of you are and, i’ll i’m saying is that one day it’ll screw you over.</p>
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<p>Put it this way: Do you honestly think your future employers will give a damn about whether or not you see your job as something worthwhile or interesting? You think you’re always going to be stuck doing something that’ll further the human race?</p>
<p>Those who have work ethic out in the real world are going to end up on top. Because guess what? Employers don’t care how smart you are or what college you came from. They care about you getting the job done, and the people who do that? Yup, they’re the ones with good work ethics.</p>
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<p>The amount of privilege contained in this statement stinks to high heaven. Some people aren’t lucky enough (yes, it’s luck) to be born with a.) good genes and b.) in a good enviroment that’s conducive to education. Why should I, or anyone really, be impressed by the fact that you got the luck of the draw when you were born?</p>
<p>If given a choice between being impressed by those who just got lucky and those who work hard for what they have … gonna go with the latter, buddy.</p>
<p>hey woah, can we cool it with the ad hominems? </p>
<p>if you are just going to stick to easy work you know the majority will succeed at without ever challenging anyone, how will they GET that work ethic that you so value? no one ever said you had to be impressed that someone can write a term paper in two hours and get a better grade than someone who worked it for weeks. </p>
<p>intelligence and intellectuals are already highly valued. note AP and honors classes. also notice how special education classes receive less funding and less opportunity. our society values the elite. whether that’s right or wrong is irrelevant, it’s still there. </p>
<p>plus the intelligent aren’t the only minority. the minority also includes people who don’t get the topic at hand, and also have a poor work ethic. </p>
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<p>you missed the point that those two people can have the exact same output. an intelligent person with no work ethic can do the same work as an unintelligent one with high work ethic. employers don’t care because the work still gets done.</p>
<p>Wax. Not really, if i ask someone to design a building. The employer will appreciate the one who takes his time and works on it for weeks than the lazy kid who threw something together in a day.</p>
<p>Hell, i would.</p>
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<p>If the employer wants a building designed, he should first and foremost look for someone who enjoys designing buildings. If he selects someone who does, they will work hard whether they’re typically lazy or not.</p>
<p>“Put it this way: Do you honestly think your future employers will give a damn about whether or not you see your job as something worthwhile or interesting? You think you’re always going to be stuck doing something that’ll further the human race?”</p>
<p>hahaha. the point of going to college, for me at least, is to find a job that is worthwhile and interesting. if i wanted a unimportant (with respect to furthering the human race) job that requires a good work ethic and no intelligence, wouldn’t i just drop out of high school and start working?</p>
<p>I’m not demeaning “unimportant” jobs. They need to be done, and as a whole, they contribute to society. Can someone please come up with a better label for those types of jobs that doesn’t sound so condescending?</p>
<p>^How about “Society-Builders”?</p>
<p>I hate it when kids say “I’m smart, I just don’t try.”</p>
<p>I say, that you’re dumb for not trying and wasting your future, not smart for being lazy.</p>
<p>The people who are successful in this world are the people who work their butts off.</p>
<p>Geniuses who work their butts off > Average/Above average person working their butt off > Lazy genius > lazy average person.</p>
<p>Lol this is the story of my life, hence my name</p>
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still missing the point. if their output is exactly the same then no one cares.</p>
<p>This is kind of unrelated, but I REALLY hate people who aren’t actually smart, but still use the “I just don’t try” excuse. I’m sorry, but if you’re failing an on-level math class and you got a 155 on the PSAT, you ARE NOT SMART.</p>