I would love some help...laid back schools

<p>Which schools do you think are the most cut-throat when it comes to academics?
Which are the least?
I somehow get all these misconceptions that schools are cut-throat only to later find out on CC that they really aren't. so ya....im not sure what to think at this point.
I really don't like an uber-competitive atmosphere and i would like to avoid that. Does anyone have any thoughts? Which schools are strong academically with a laid back atmosphere. I am interesting in public health, neuroscience/cognitive science/psychology, and international affairs/policy.
I DONT WANT THIS TO BE A CHANCE THREAD OF ANY SORTS PLEASE. just suggestions for possible schools to look at. </p>

<p>A little about me....
i have a 3.97/4.15 SAT(see tomorrow) practice tests all around 2100ish mark.
~30/500 class rank
I have taken 4 APs so far. 6 APs next year. Always taken Honors/accelerated classes. </p>

<p>ECs...main ones:
volunteer at science center/museum. Help teach kids science classes.(300 hours)
volunteer during summer to teach inner city youth sailing in san francisco.
(400+ hours)
Play in quartet for community functions for free(200+ hours)
research in boise state University biochem lab
Orchestra/Honor Orchestra/Chamber Orchestra all competitive to get into.
lots more just not that special</p>

<p>Brown is very chill. Goddamn hippies at Brown need to stop getting high and start pulling their hair out over internships.</p>

<p>Stanford and Brown have a duck like student body where they seem very laid back and chill, but bellow the water they are paddling like crazy working hard in class and setting themselves up for the future.</p>

<p>DePaul is a great safety school, a laid back school in a fun and funky Chicago neighborhood. Deserves the "happiest students" apellation. A merit scholarship for you, too, as long as they think you are seriously considering it and not just using it as a safety school. Large enough to have a lot of good options.</p>

<p>I always thought that stanford was really competitive and stuff...i didnt know it was laid back.
any more suggestions?</p>

<p>Stanford is NOT laid-back. I personally know some who are there stressing over the hard curriculum and all their other ECs. It only invites a calm aura since it's California with beautiful campus and nice weather. This isn't to say Stanford students aren't happy of their lifestyle. They were, after all, rated the most happy students.</p>

<p>most cut-throat: Harvard
most laid-back: Humboldt State in CA</p>

<p>Rice and UCLA are fairly laid back, "good" schools.</p>

<p>Whitman College has excellent academics and is not cut throat. For laid back, perhaps Hampshire. For way laid back and individualized learning, Marlboro (in Vermont).</p>

<p>^ I second Hampshire.</p>

<p>yeah my friend whos attending ucla is laid back but also working hard. ucla = hot chicks plus study</p>

<p>I think a lot of LACs would fit this category. For example at my school, Wesleyan, students are pretty darn laid back. People work hard and do stress about work sometimes, but it's not cut throat or competitive at ALL. Students often love their classes, are generally really supportive of each other (the science community is esp. supportive, from what I've seen), and most people are willing to take a break from work for a game of Frisbee, a sweet movie on the film series, or just to hang out on the hill on a nice day.</p>

<p>In general, LACs tend to focus on learning for learning's sake, and are therefore more likely to have a less professionally oriented (or even just achievement for achievement's sake oriented) atmosphere than some Unis, which means less cutthroat-ness. From talking to friends at various schools, a couple of other LACs that definitely seem to have a laidback student body while also having strong/challenging academics are: Carleton, Pomona, Oberlin, Bard, Hampshire, Sarah Lawrence, Occidental (and many more as well! Those are just the ones I have friends at). Again, the students at these schools take their acedemics seriously, but they aren't cutthroat, and tend not to be as, IDK, superwrapped up in only work--or if they are, it is for sheer love it :D</p>

<p>For a different kind of atmosphere but also laid back, try University of Richmond (at least according to another friend there). </p>

<p>A school I'd recommend avoiding is Reed. Great school, and not cutthroat, but REALLY intense and, from many reports, highly stress inducing. </p>

<p>I also second (or third, or something) Brown.</p>

<p>University of Washington? Relatively close and pretty chill. Great science school.</p>

<p>How are the science departments at the smaller LACs?
I love the tight knit community and stuff of LACs and i was considering carleton bowdin and middlebury. I know since they are smaller they dnt have the huge opportunities of bigger schools. But this could be better in finding lab work and stuff right?</p>

<p>I really like brown. It has been a top choice for a while now</p>

<p>University of Rochester is described as a "chill" school (and they don't mean just the weather!). The academics are first rate. Students work hard, but the kids seem pretty non-competitive; they help each other, they share materials. No one cares what your grades are. It's very much an "OK, whatever" type of atmosphere.</p>

<p>It also is small, so it's kind of "LAC-like". Research opportunities abound for undergraduates (there are only 2000 grad students or so), and it's very strong in the areas of your interests.</p>

<p>Rochester is similar to brown right?</p>

<p>There's cut-throat/competitive and there's co-operative. There's laid-back/easy and there's intense/stressful. I feel like "strong academically with a laid back atmosphere" is a contradiction. You get out what you put in. I agree that Reed is strong academically, intense, stressful for some, but students are highly co-operative, learning together. I think many schools have these features.</p>

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I love the tight knit community and stuff of LACs and i was considering carleton bowdin and middlebury. I know since they are smaller they dnt have the huge opportunities of bigger schools. But this could be better in finding lab work and stuff right?

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You should look closely at specific schools, maybe talk to some undergrads about what their experiences have been like, but in general top LACs also have good sciences with plenty of opportunities, though which ones are strongest in your areas of interest will vary. </p>

<p>I suggest you definitely check out Wesleyan if you like Brown—we have a similar kind of student body but with a smaller LAC feel. But we do have some tiny grad programs in science (small enough that we're still considered and LAC). That means grad school level funding and research, but with TONS of openings for undergrads because there are only a handful of grad students. I don't know a single science student who couldn't get a job in a lab here if they wanted one, and the research being done is new — maybe not the same kind of cutting edge stuff done at a big uni, but still pretty neat, according to my science friends.

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There's cut-throat/competitive and there's co-operative. There's laid-back/easy and there's intense/stressful. I feel like "strong academically with a laid back atmosphere" is a contradiction. You get out what you put in. I agree that Reed is strong academically, intense, stressful for some, but students are highly co-operative, learning together. I think many schools have these features.

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I don't agree that strong academics and laid back atmosphere are a contradiction, since I experience it at my school. I mean, sure, if you want so laid back that nobody is ever doing work, you can sit around and chill or party all day everyday with anyone you want, that's not going to be a strong academic school. But there are different ways to approach work—from talking to my friends at Reed, people tend to approach it very intensely, leading to an intense not laid back atmosphere. I mean, when I was visiting it as a pre-frosh, a friend there told me "don't starts smoking (cigarettes), it takes too much time away from studying." </p>

<p>To me, that's insane…people who smoke at Wes find the time to do it without feeling like it takes away from their work. Indeed, a cigarette break may become a half-hour chat on the porch with friends, and that's ok, just get back to work later. (Of course, smoking is bad for you, and my friend was also being slightly hyperbolic, but the point remains).</p>

<p>Now, I know everyone at Reed (and other schools that are often considered similar, like UChicago) doesn't have the same experience, and it's a great school and the right atmosphere for some, but I definitely think that there is a difference between Reed's intense (but cooperative)/good academics and Wesleyan's (or Brown, or etc) laid back (and cooperative)/good academics: all have strong academics, but the atmosphere is different. Of course, both of those are different from Local Party State U's laid-back-party-every-day/not so good academics. They are also both different from Cuthroat U's intense (because cutthroat)/good academics. Different strokes for different folks. </p>

<p>PS. That's not to say every Local State U is like that!</p>

<p>i've always heard dartmouth and brown are the most laid back ivies, if you're interested in throwing yourself in the ivy crap-shoot.</p>

<p>How about Harvey Mudd?</p>

<p>hahahah i HOPE mudd was mentioned as a joke</p>

<p>Claremont McKenna has a very laid back student body.</p>