<p>Why is there not like a rivalry between the two gifted high school programs? You have Xbox vs. Playstation, Apple vs. PC, iPhone vs. Driod, etc but not IB vs. AP?</p>
<p>You have the international toodley-doo, posh IB humanities classes vs. the tough-nosed AP sciences and math, the ability to cherry pick what you want to take with AP vs. the all-or-nothing IB diplomas, international emphasis vs. American emphasis, and so on, yet there's no rivalry-like dislike between the two. </p>
<p>It's kind of lame in a way.</p>
<p>They aren’t really gifted programs… And I think there is a bit of a rivalry. Have you seen the polls on the new Facebook Questions app? People argue over it all the time.</p>
<p>Dual Enrollment is better.</p>
<p>AP > IB and Dual Enrollment combined</p>
<p>AP is definitely better, for math and science at least. Probably history too, so basically everything. I’ve seen HL math and it looked so much easier than Calc BC.</p>
<p>From what I know, SL classes are like honors classes basically, but they try to pass them off as an HL/AP class. That’s why colleges rarely give credit for SL classes. HL classes would probably be the equivalent to AP, but most people I know from the IB school in my district (it’s a top 100 school), take 2-3HL classes a year, while AP kids take 3-5 APs.</p>
<p>IB shows that a person can be forced to be well rounded. AP shows a college that a person can be very well rounded without a program pushing them.</p>
<p>Honestly, from what I’ve heard from my IB friends at the top 100 school, all they seem to do is complain. “Oh, 4000 words, kill me. Blah blah, IB this, IB that, IB is my life.” Get over yourselves IB kids.</p>
<p>There are a bunch of threads on this subject already. IB kids are always going to support IB kids and say that their exams don’t have multiple choice and AP kids are always going to support AP.</p>
<p>Public schools should not have IB programs. The cost alone for a school to be credentialed to have IB is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS and with budget cuts… public schools just should NOT waste their money on a program that could easily be replaced with a very similar program such as AP. The cost of an AP program is minimal. The cost of an IB program is thousands.</p>
<p>On top of that, AP allows you to be just as well-rounded, if not more well-rounded than IB. AP offers you the opportunity to take as many exams as you would like in everything. Music, art, history, math, science, English, and foreign languages are all options.</p>
<p>But anyways, my biggest beef with IB is the cost.</p>
<p>I’ve heard IB English is a joke, at least at my school. Our AP Lang/Lit is much better. Although I’ve heard Math HL is harder than calc bc.</p>
<p>Just take whatever your school offers you. Not every school has the option for AP/IB/Dual Enrollment.</p>
<p>No comparison.
IB > AP by a million</p>
<p>I don’t have to study at all for AP classes to get a good grade while I gotta study my ass off for IB</p>
<p>@NathanielZhu</p>
<p>Exactly, because your school is indicative of all others.</p>
<p>The rest of the world> America…
Therefore IB > AP honestly I don’t hate America, but education wise the IB approach creates a more well rounded student and citizen. There is absolutely no comparison or argument here.</p>
<p>My school’s IB is definitely better than AP, though we integrate AP classes into the curriculum so we take HL English and History and take the AP Lit/APUSH test. It’s 5 APs along with the IB diploma if you don’t take more APs. </p>
<p>So…compromise :D?</p>
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Top notch logic there. Also, what is the rest of the world better in?</p>
<p>However, I will counter:</p>
<p>College > High School
Therefore, Dual Enrollment > AP/IB</p>
<p>@BillyMC I agree with college being greater, but since you can earn college credits with AB and IB I’d say the second statement isn’t validated because of that. Honestly the best thing to do would be to take advantage of what your school has to offer.</p>
<p>There’s a difference between a high school class that gives you ambiguous “college credit” and taking actual college classes on a college campus with college professors with doctorate degrees. Plus, the span of different kinds of classes you can take is way wider.</p>
<p>@BillyMc I really don’t know much about dual enrollment because it is only offered for English to seniors where I live, and hardly anyone does it. I think most of the people that would utilize something like that aren’t really focusing on English, however there are the few that do it. Sorry I can’t really debate it because I am completely biased and I’m not at all knowledgable.</p>
<p>I’ve taken 4 APs so far in the “pre IB” program at my school, and think all of them were probably the easiest academic classes I’ve taken in high school (I’ve been really prepped for the tests too, and have gotten all 5s so far). IB subjects are way harder than AP, even the SL subjects. I think part of it has to do with the school. We can take AP tests along with our IB classes because our IB classes basically teach all of the AP stuff and more. Also, because IB kids take AP and IB stuff, we can compare the two better than people who’ve only taken AP and never experienced IB.</p>
<p>^Well, what courses did you take?</p>
<p>p.s. this girl switched out of IB partially and takes both IB and AP classes. She thinks AP is better.</p>
<p>come at me bro~</p>