<p>do enroll and simply hope you are not going to be paying 75,000/year in tuition, fees, room and board by the time you are a senior? I mean California is out of control. And can you graduate in 4 years? And what are the classes going to look like? All legit questions.</p>
<p>I also want to hear opinions on this.</p>
<p>also wondering this. I was accepted to Berkeley as an OOS student but shudder even to think about the 55k/year cost they currently have. Anyone know if this price is locked in or if it will be susceptible to increase?</p>
<p>Yeah, it’s pricey, but graduating in 4 years is not a problem. If you are doing humanities or social science, you could probably even graduate in three.</p>
<p>I’m an OOS student, and I’m only paying ~47k for room & board + tuition. Admittedly, I’ve waived out of the school’s health insurance plan (saves about $1000). If you’re engineering, then it’s completely worth the cost… Although, humanities would be another story, especially since the job market is so unforgiving these days…</p>
<p>Graduating in 4 years could be a problem if you don’t have AP credit, since not all courses are offered every semester, but if you have lots of AP credit, it should be no problem…</p>
<p>Happy college hunting :)</p>
<p>with the exception of Engineering and Chemistry, Cal is not worth the OOS fees IMO.</p>
<p>And yes, they will be increasing. By how much? At this point, no one has any idea.</p>
<p>urgh… it sucks that im already considering transfer even though i havent even started at berkeley yet :(</p>
<p>If people pay 50k a year for a school like Hiram or Colorado, why won’t people pay for the same price for a world-class education offered by a world renown school? I don’t get it. If people pay 50k a year for Brown, why won’t people pay for Berkeley for the same price? I don’t get it. Berkeley grads are paid more than Brown grads are. Berkeley yields better ROI than Brown does. Come on people. What’s wrong with you! </p>
<p>BTW, 23% of freshmen were OOS. That figure is expected to stay the same if not rise a little bit this year.</p>
<p>your point is taken, but the annual increases yet to come are too open-ended. Is $50K going to 60K, 65K or even 75-80K by the time that freshman OOS admittee is a senior? With what is going on in California can you guarantee that it won’t? And at just what price does one draw a line in the sand? At some point you lose competitive advantage vs. a smaller private school. No one questions that Cal is a terrific school, but things are changing dramatically and very quickly in the state of California. The job market itself is still an imponderable, some students will not want to be distracted by the state of flux in the UC system simultaneously. It’s a little tough to concentrate for finals when the chants of protests against the Governor, Regents and the UC Administration are raining down outside one’s dorm window. Though in some convoluted way it is indicative of school spirit I suppose, and not at all out-of-whack w/the traditional politicism of the campus.</p>
<p>I think it would be downright stupid of them to raise tuition for OOS. They know that if they raise the tuition OOS people will not want to go so they would probably end up losing more money by increasing the price.</p>
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<p>I would add to that the maths and sciences at L&S. The second, in other words… physics.</p>
<p>dude trust they’re not gonna raise OOS tuition, they either increase instate tuition or admit more OOS</p>
<p>You’re all freaking out over nothing. Tuition’s never going to be more than it is for top private universities, how would that possibly make sense? Tuition is increasing for in-state students, but not too a point where it is unreasonable. The majority of the protesting is being done by a small group of people who would probably jump on any issue they could possibly protest. Seriously, the last protest I walked by was one obnoxious girl screaming into a megaphone while everyone else just tried to get to class. Media does a good job of making it look like a huge schoolwide crisis though!</p>
<p>Unless you are a transfer or have some extremely unusual circumstances, you will graduate in 4 years or less. I am double majoring in two difficult and unrelated fields but can graduate a semester early. I have been waitlisted for classes a few times but have always been able to get in. Overall there’s great professors, best research opportunities you could ask for, and better post-graduation prospects than almost anywhere. I think it would be a mistake to pick anything over Berkeley except for maybe HYPMS.</p>
<p>RML;</p>
<p>The short answer is that clearly many OOS’ers DO pay $50k/yr to attend a UC. But my advice is to spend that money at a private college for the better advising, dorms, and the like. Sure, Cal-English/Math may be #1 in the world, but that doesn’t make finding jobs any easier. If someone has the grades for Cal, alternatively they could likely attend their instate public for FREE, or Colorado/Hiram at a steep tuition discount. </p>
<p>You can get a job at Starbucks still have $220k in your pocket. It’s all about a value proposition, IMO.</p>
<p>As it stands, Berkeley provides a stellar education, even juxtaposed alongside similarly reputable privates. For the minority of out-of-staters who do not count finances as an issue, it is an exceptional choice. And for those who are reeling over possible OOS tuition hikes, the chances of a significant increase in tuition for out-of-staters are slim to none. In either case Berkeley is an undeniably good school.</p>