<p>I cant believe people are already starting to flame people about expecting to get in on AA, i mean god, can their be a week without a discussion on AA. </p>
<p>Decision: ACCEPTED </p>
<p>Stats:
SAT: (V,M,W) 670, 740, 610
SAT IIs: MII - 740, Chem - 780
GPA: 4.00 (Unweighted)
Rank: 1/248
Other stats:
Subjective:
Essays: A twist on something overdone. (Playing the piano, but I talked about a "melt-down" I had while playing in a recital)
Teacher Recs: Great, From the two greatest and funniest teachers I've had
Counselor Rec: Okay. I'm not sure, but she gave me the highest marks.
Hook (if any): Asian in Idaho with parents who immigrated from China.
Location/Person:
State or Country: Idaho
School Type: Failing (According to state standards) Public
Ethnicity: Asian
Gender: Male</p>
<p>Asian and he made it. So dont no body go around and say i hate AA this and its because of AA that i didnt make it. </p>
<p>If this kid was black/latino and people saw 2020 SAT, they would CRY Affirmative Action</p>
<p>Just pucker up and worry about your own credentials because AA is really not the killer evil thing it is said to be. Anyone who shows passion can make it regardless of being black white brown or yellow.</p>
<p>I don't see how your post has anything to do with AA. This guy has good credentials (#1 in his class, all A's, decent SATs) that put him within the range of what Columbia is looking for. Any being from Idaho is geographic diversity.</p>
<p>I agree with OP's point (although not very well supported by the profile) don't mark off someone else's acceptance just because they are black/hispanic (as happened in the decisions thread) there were many asians in the other thread that were accepted with below average stats. if any conclusions is to be drawn, it should be that stats are only apart of your application, these along will not get you into columbia.</p>
<p>true....that was an overstatement...but they do play a role...if not why would they accept someone with an Ok essay...with mediocre ECs (i.e. didnt even fill the list)...and who only had good grades and good SATs....but was from an underrepresented country....
ah well ..anyways....this might just be jealousy speaking out....</p>
<p>Uh, that guy isn't so bad. I mean he is vale, for godness sake. plus 780 SAT II, etc? Also, Asian does count as a minority. Not much, but it does. Finallu to top it off, it if from Idaho. Not a huge stretch for Columbia ED.</p>
<p>When people get mad about AA they are often referring to people like this girl who applied ED to Princeton.<br>
Her SAT and SAT II scores were 670,650,600,560,530. She has a weak GPA, poor ECs. Yet she was black. </p>
<p>Minorities feel like they can get in easier than others just because of their race. The girl above mentioned that she was well-off. Her race didn't affect her life much at all, and it shouldn't matter in admission. Would a white person apply to Princeton without a single score above 700? Most people apply without a single score below 700. Really, she was banking entirely on the fact she was black. And that is why AA is sad.</p>
<p>The link to the above girl's stats is <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/</a> showthread.php?t=115086&highlight=deaf
I should mention that she is deaf, which could affect her verbal score, but not math, etc. That can possibly explain one or two of the scores, but deafness isn't a hook, but an explanation. It it certainly can't explain, for example, 560 BIO SAT II.</p>
<p>Asians are the one getting hurt by AA, NOT white boys and girls so you have no reason to feel threatened, let alone go on a crusade about how "Minorities always think they can get in" I am a believer in AA and this article really sums up my position pretty well.</p>
<p>Not true at all. At schools like Amherst, Williams, etc., Asians get a distinct boost. Its just that white people spread out applications over a wider range of schools. Every Asian applies to HPY, so that concentration at those few schools does hurt them. But for the smart Asian who applies to schools like Amherst or Williams, then AA helps. You need to learn, my friend.</p>
<p>" Particularly telling is that Williams' percentage of Asian-Americans has declined from its high-point in the early 1990s (11.2%). Asian-American enrollment at most elite colleges has skyrocketed in the last ten years."</p>
<p>I understand that Asians are minorities. Please point me to the article where it shows how Asians are being helped in admittence to Williams. (and fix the link)</p>
<p>"Williams does not have a cap or limit on asian admits. The relatively low number of asian admits at Williams is reflective of the admissions pool rather than any particular Williams admission practice."</p>
<p>Again, very low concentration of Asians are applying to a school like Williams, as opposed to Stanford. Asians hurt themselves by concentrating, thus losing the minority advantage.</p>
<p>Again, Stanford had 25%, nearly 30% on some accounts, of Asians. An Asian applying to Bates would have an advantage, because he/she would become part of a much much smaller group.</p>
<p>lol asians getting a helping hand into college? if anything we're at a disadvantage because theres a lot of us (atleas where i am) and we GENERALLY have above-average - awesome stats. therefore they would be more selective in this particular ethnicity.</p>
<p>"All minorities do not think they can get in easier. I'm a minority and i highly doubt my chances at HYP."</p>
<p>I don't know your stats. if you have low stats and applied largely because of your race, that is what I am talking about, and of course you will doubt your chances. If you have typical stats, and the race is merely an "add-on" so to speak, not the entire deal, then good for you.</p>
<p>Well, i have pretty good stats. 35 ACT, 780,740,710 SAT IIs. 4.0 uw. And i am highly skeptical of my chances. Your statement was a generalization that it is simply not true. I do know that a lot of minorities may apply because of economic status moreso than race.</p>
<p>I'm already to see the inequities of the AA stuff in my school with ED acceptances. A couple URMS who are quite clearly underqualified and did not work very hard in highschool got into some phenonemal schools (columbia included) while I knwo some kdis who worked their asses off and got deferred. The reason I think AA is awful is because people like hotpiece, who is clearly extremely well qualified with those stats, will have to put up with people assuming he got in just because of race or whatever.</p>