<p>Which school would you say should be added? I know this is somewhat silly, and it's not going to happen, but what do you think? </p>
<p>I'd say Stanford would fit in best, but would that be whacky since it's not in the northeast? So for me it's between Stanford, MIT, and Williams. </p>
<p>Please don't chew each others heads off here.</p>
<p>Already had this discussion. Ignoring Geography completely I would say the only schools that makes any sense at all, athletically and academically, are Chicago and JHU. Which would never happen.</p>
<p>I would suggest Georgetown. Good academics, athletics, likewise "feel" and location. Stanford seems too modern an institution. Georgetown has that sort of history, I think.</p>
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<li>USMA (West Point)</li>
<li>(and then maybe) The US Naval Academy </li>
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<p>both schools have long historical athletic ties competing with the Ivies.</p>
<p>interestingly, the first time the term "IVY LEAGUE" was coined it actually included USMA (West Point):</p>
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More than a decade before formal league play was organized, the New York Herald Tribune sportswriter Stanley Woodward used the phrase "ivy colleges" to describe nine schoolsBrown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Pennsylvania, Princeton, the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, and Yalethat had nurtured the game of football, had engaged in longstanding athletic rivalries, and had buildings with ivy-covered walls. That was in the fall of 1933. Associated Press sports editor Alan Gould has been credited with the first use of "Ivy League" in February 1935.</p>
<p>Concerned about the professionalization of college football, eight college presidents met in 1945 to sign an "Ivy Group Agreement" (West Point was not represented). Affirming that their football programs should be "in fitting proportion to the main purpose of academic life," the presidents ruled out athletic scholarships, pledged to uphold joint standards for financial aid and eligibility, and formed a standing committee whose members included the colleges' directors of athletics.
<p>Stanford should be in a league of its own as should Duke and GTown. </p>
<p>However, if MIT were to recruit football, squash, and hockey athletes then I would say it would be highly reasonable for it to join the Ivy League. </p>
<p>I don't know many who would agree with me but I think Williams and Amherst qualify as Ivy's as well.</p>
<p>Colgate. I remember reading somewhere that it was a toss-up between Colgate and Brown. Brown made more sense because travel times were shorter (remember that Ivy league is an athletic league).</p>
<p>I think I read this in John Feinstein's "The Last Amateurs" (about Patriot League basketball)</p>
<p>I didn't know IVY league placed as much emphasis on sports as it did on academics, thats really interesting. And why can't they add any schools to the IVY league?</p>
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Colgate. I remember reading somewhere that it was a toss-up between Colgate and Brown.</p>
<p>I think I read this in John Feinstein's "The Last Amateurs" (about Patriot League basketball)
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<p>Really... seeing that the Ivy League's impetus for formation had nothing to do with basketball (it was football that was the catalyst) - it's hard to give this kind of assertion coming from a book about the Patriot League and basketball any kind of credit...</p>
<p>Be that as it may, I'd love to see a link or article that backs this up...</p>
<p>Although I had never heard of this book before, it seems like it talks more about the formation of the Patriot League, which was initially formed more for football and the other sports followed. I'll have to check it out. Colgate did have a reputation of consistently playing the Ivys in football, which it has still maintained in modern times to some degree (~ 4 games a year in football). Actually, in the decade leading up to the formation of the Ivy League, Colgate had more games in common with the current members of the Ivy League than Brown or Penn did.</p>