If you all have naviance, why are you still posting info on this site?

<p>I think it’s very likely that the majority of HS do not use Naviance. So, a lot of kids do have reason to come on here.</p>

<p>I posted a chance for only one school, in that school’s subforum. No one from my school had been accepted there since 1997 or so, so I don’t think Naviance wouldn’t have helped be even if I had it. Besides that, most of the time I spend on this website is on HSL, where we don’t talk about college admissions, or on the subfora of the colleges to which I applied, talking about the same things we talk about on HSL and anxiety.</p>

<p>Naviance only shows numbers, and in many schools (such as mine) there isn’t a large enough data set.</p>

<p>Posting on here offers a way to see how effective the “packaging” of your subjective elements are.</p>

<p>Berkeley hates OOS kids.</p>

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<p>True story. My principal awaits the day they let in a kid from our school who isn’t a female lacrosse player. :)</p>

<p>Naviance does not have all necessary info. For example, only one person got into my first choice school in the history of my school’s naviance. This really isn’t an effective comparison. Plus, it isn’t all about the GPA. We want to see people outside our schools. Most average public schools have about tenish hig preformers to compare against. CC lets us see stats and get info from many many more of really bright students, a better pool of info for most of us. Naviance is good but only to a very limited extent.</p>

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The thing about Naviance is that it establishes that the concrete elements for the most part are still the dominating factors. You’d be surprised how predictable admissions is for some of these Ivies just based on GPA and SAT. On the other hand, admissions to Stanford is pretty much guesswork from Naviance data alone.</p>

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Maybe for your data. But at my school, it tells a very different story. The average accepted GPA is actually lower than the average applied GPA (at Harvard, for example). This goes to show that numerical comparisons are pretty useless, with qualitative info playing a much larger role.</p>

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Harvard is a whole new monster altogether. We’ve had ~200 kids apply to Harvard in recent years (according to Naviance) and not a single unhooked kid has gotten in. How many Harvard/Ivy applicants have come from your school? Do you know more than the numbers of the people who have gotten in? For our school, the four quagmires are HPSM (Y likes us I guess). All except I think one girl who have matriculated to HPM in the last 4 years from our school were hooked. Meanwhile at S, as far as I know, it’s about half hooked and half unhooked. Even seemingly random admissions trends have a much better explanation than “well it’s a holistic process” most of the time (with S, yes they really do seem to be holistic freaks but hey, somebody’s gotta fulfill that role right? :P)</p>

<p>I am the first kid to get accepted to an Ivy League in my school’s seven year history, and I’m an unhooked asian male. I think Naviance would be useless even if we did have it.</p>

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<p>Yes, especially for a new school that has only had Naviance for one year (for example, the high school we know best).</p>

<p>I think Naviance is the greatest thing since sliced bread!! it really gave us a sense for how realistic (not a given, but at least a ballpark) my kids’ chances were and how competitive their stats were coming from our school. If I had just read the chances people give out on CC, then they would have applied several schools below their capabilities. The GPAs are really relative to each high school! There were a number of schools for which we didn’t have sufficient Naviance data, but just seeing the acceptances for other schools gave us confidence to apply to the less known entities.</p>

<p>I hear its like 15 percent gay men at Vassar</p>

<p>Naviance isn’t that helpful. My school uses it just because it’s easier to send transcripts and counselor recommendations. Naviance only shows the number of kids from the school that got into a particular college, the GPA average of acceptances and applicants, the percentage accepted, the number of people that applied, the average SAT scores, etc. What Naviance DOESN’T show are the race of the people accepted, the ECs, the courseload, and all those other things outside of numbers that are important. And, because Naviance only shows numbers, it is very misleading.
In the data that I have, Naviance has that the average GPA of people who made it into Harvard from my school is 94.14, with the lowest accepted being 86 and the highest being like a 100.4. With all these different things that are taken into consideration and the surprising acceptances/rejections, it’s really hard to know what exactly admissions officers are looking for.</p>

<p>Naviance is very useful to the average high school kid, it’s just that a lot of cc kids apply to ivy’s and too schools, so there is little data.</p>

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I don’t have answers to those questions, nor do I feel the need to find them.</p>

<p>But the very fact that you need to ask those questions illustrates the weakness of Naviance.</p>