if you have any questions for us...

<p>Is Visions of Mortality still offered? I really liked that one.</p>

<p>Yup - and Bobonich is as wacky as ever... :)</p>

<p>Hmmm, how was Technological Visions of Utopia? The reading list sure looks nice, but any idea about the profs/work?</p>

<p>I did Journeys! IT WAS AWESOMEE!</p>

<p>I'll second the request for Tech Visions of Utopia: any good/bad news?</p>

<p>I highly recommend Visions of Mortality. Prof Bobonich is amazing. He's probably the best prof in all of IHUM. </p>

<p>I took the Human & Machine and it was pretty awful. But two of the profs are different now and all of the readings are different, so it will probably be a different experience. I don't know if it will be a better experience, just different.</p>

<p>I believe Eric Roberts was one of the professors who did Visions of Utopia this fall - he's really cool and quirky, and I would definitely recommend Visions if he were teaching it again next year. I didn't have him for IHUM but I did have him for CS106A, and he was awesome. All in all, I've heard some very good things about Visions of Utopia.</p>

<p>this year the journeys reading list was totally changed, now it's</p>

<p>Flannery O'Connor, selected stories
Leo Tolstoy, selected stories
Albert Camus,The Stranger
James Baldwin, The Fire Next Time
Chuang Tzu, selected writings</p>

<p>Will that have a huge impact on the class, do you think?</p>

<p>Technological Visions of Utopia was fun, not super amazing, but pretty interesting. I did enjoy the reading. It got to be a little repetitive after a while - it seemed like I kept reading one failed utopia after another. But it was also their first year teaching it last year, so they have probably improved it quite a bit.</p>

<p>I loved journeys -- as long as you get the double team of yearley/wolff, it's almost as if the reading list doesn't matter :)</p>

<p>How's the workload for Visions of Mortality? I've heard lots of good comments about the class, but never anything about how much work is involved.</p>

<p>Sorry for posting again, but I forgot to add that I wanted to know how many papers there are, if there's a final/midterm (I heard some classes don't have one or the other?), and how heavy the reading load is per week.</p>

<p>Visions has two papers in the quarter, and then the final is an assignment of three papers due on the same day. The workload ain't bad, and I actually enjoyed reading a lot of the selections. The Death of Ivan Ilyich was a good book, or so I thought, and the style of the Bhagavad Gita was pretty. The reading load was something like ~50-75 pages a week, but it was pretty short (read: large font/small pages).</p>

<p>Thanks for the reply, jwj. I'm currently trying to decide between Visions and Journeys for my top IHUM choice, and I just wanted to know about Visions' workload since I heard Journeys' was pretty light. But the workload for Visions doesn't sound too bad either. Are the three papers for the final all shorter than the two papers in the quarter though?</p>

<p>Yeah, it was something like two of them were 3-4 pages, and then one was 4-5 pages or something like that. The ones in the quarter are ~5-6 pages each. And I would definitely choose Visions over Journeys, Bobonich is legendary for very good reason.</p>

<p>im torn b/w freedom, equality, difference and journeys...anyone have any suggestions?</p>

<p>I read in the approaching book that there are tutoring centers...can we get help on like IHUM papers and stuff too? Where is it?</p>

<p>and one more thing I want to take the 60 series/math 51H....I don’t care if its hard or anything...I just want to know if I will still have time to do other things like research and stuff my first year…anyone have personal experience with this kind of course schedule?</p>

<p>Oh yeah one more thing (in addition to the ? posted above ^ ) is this a myth or something at Stanford</p>

<p>at admit weekend everyone was complaining that it is impossible to get an A in IHUM classes...something about profs hand out Bs on every paper or something...can anyone shed some light on this..</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>Writing Center. Basement of building 460.</p>

<p>Er, well, I would just say to take things easy first quarter...besides the barrier of profs commonly not accepting freshmen for research, just see how you do with a workload of IHUM/Math/Physics and then think about if you'd be comfortable with adding research on top of that the next quarter.</p>

<p>In terms of just about any large course you take at Stanford, it's going to be harder than you think to get an A. And yes, IHUM is notorious for giving out almost entirely Bs, although it tends to vary with the IHUM/which TF you get.</p>

<p>Fact: those with flawless academic records thus far can, in fact, get Bs. They are not somehow magically immune to this because they got into Stanford, as they commonly delude themselves into thinking.
Fact: sometimes no matter how hard you try, you will just hit the mean...or under.
Fact: you shouldn't get discouraged, just seek help from your TA/TF/prof and keep trying</p>

<p>Just bein' real with you here.</p>

<p>60s + 50H has been done before, by three friends of mine. hard but not impossible.</p>

<p>also not impossible to get As in ihum.</p>