If you like this Ivy, you might like...

College Search & Selection
21

<p>

</p>

<p>Northwestern and Minnesota are both large urban schools with a campus that have strong programs in many pre-professional areas and are members of the Big Ten athletic conference.They both have a strong focus on research, and yes, cold locations in cosmopolitan cities. Seemed like a lot of coorelation to me…</p>

22

<p>

</p>

<p>Again, I’m sorry if this one’s not correct, but it seemed logical to an outsider like myself that a sensible back-up school in roughly the same area, same programs, and same size to Stanford would be Pepperdine because it met these requirements. However, I am unfortunatley much more fimilar with east-coast, Midwestern, and southern schools than western schools. (let’s just say my expertise, for the most part, ends at the rockies…)</p>

<p>How about Stanford-Lehigh for a more accurate comparison, despite the great geographical distance? (and the fact that it would take much convincing for a SoCal teenager to spend the next four years of his/her life in Bethlehem, PA!!!)</p>

23

<p>

</p>

<p>Very funny, but Detroit’s not really that bad. Come by Grosse Pointe or the Somerset Collection in Troy, MI sometime (yes, I am a rust belt activist, just to put it out there…)</p>

<p>Anyways, there is no University of Detroit. There is a University of Detorit Mercy, which is a small institution classified as a Universities-Masters institution by USN&WR, and there is Wayne State, a fourth-tier public uni within city boundaries, which you could refer to, as well.</p>

<p>I know nothing about Japan (except for what I learned self-studying APWH).</p>

24

<p>I think that was a joke.</p>

25

<p>

</p>

<p>I know, I was just trying to make it a little more PC ;0</p>

26

<p>stanford/pepperdine - two rather precious, wholly <em>sui generis</em> looking campuses in California.</p>

27

<p>Hey, I live in the Detroit area, and LOVE it here. I lived here long before the “Mercy” got tacked onto the U of D name. But it’s impossible to drive through the city of Detroit without thinking how perfect a setting it is for the filming of a post-apocalypse movie, without any special effects or expensive sets. By the way, the U of Detroit (Mercy) has (inexplicably) a lot of Spanish-style architecture, complete with red tile roofs. Go figure. <a href=“http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.udmercy.edu/facilitiesmgt/images/McNichols%2520Campus.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.udmercy.edu/facilitiesmgt/revitalization/index.htm&usg=__94sfzYqadahZc3xpGFlxyeoYgxw=&h=456&w=524&sz=46&hl=en&start=13&um=1&tbnid=nnR_crjpEmdKiM:&tbnh=115&tbnw=132&prev=/images%3Fq%3Duniversity%2Bof%2BDetroit%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26rlz%3D1I7GGLL_en%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1[/url]”>http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.udmercy.edu/facilitiesmgt/images/McNichols%2520Campus.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.udmercy.edu/facilitiesmgt/revitalization/index.htm&usg=__94sfzYqadahZc3xpGFlxyeoYgxw=&h=456&w=524&sz=46&hl=en&start=13&um=1&tbnid=nnR_crjpEmdKiM:&tbnh=115&tbnw=132&prev=/images%3Fq%3Duniversity%2Bof%2BDetroit%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26rlz%3D1I7GGLL_en%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>How about Stanford: Santa Clara? They’re just about neighbors, and SCU looks like a miniature Stanford. Or maybe Stanford:Rice. </p>

<p>Ok, I get the Northwestern-Minnesota connection now.</p>

28

<p>OHKID, Northwestern is not in the city of Chicago. It’s in the city of Evanston on a lake. Not to mention there are only 8000 undergrads at Northwestern. I think the Minnesota comparison is a bit off. Northwestern has more in common with Penn, Columbia, or Cornell than Minnesota.</p>

29

<p>Southern options:</p>

<p>Harvard : Georgetown
Vanderbilt : Wake Forest
MIT : Georgia Tech</p>

30

<p>The problem with Northwestern: Penn/Columbia/Cornell is that the colleges are supposed to be easier to get into than the first one. I think OHKid made a pretty good case for himself in post #21…if you want midwestern schools with top grad schools and bigtime sports, easy access to a livable big city, and plenty of opportunities for snowball fights, NU-Minnesota is the pair for you.</p>

<p>Cornell: Purdue or Clemson (middle of nowhere, prominent engineering/agriculture, often scoffed at by others in their athletic conferences for being relatively unsophisticated).</p>

31

<p>Brown- William & Mary
Amherst- Davidson
Dartmouth- Wake Forest/Vanderbilt
Penn-Emory
Princeton-Rice
Cornell- UVirginia/UNorth Carolina
Yale-Georgetown
Harvard-Duke</p>

32

<p>Harvard-Georgetown-NYU/GWU
Yale-WUSTL/Vanderbilt
Princeton-Duke/Rice-WakeForest
Columbia-Chicago-Reed
Penn-Hopkins-CarnegieMellon
Brown-Wesleyan-Macalester/Hampshire
Dartmouth-Middlebury-Colorado College/Whitman
Cornell-Northwestern-Tulane</p>

33

<p>Penn - Johns Hopkins
Dartmouth - Williams
Brown - Amherst
Columbia - NYU
Cornell - An fairly isolated, top tier state flagship</p>

<p>I refuse to offer alternatives to HYP ;)</p>

34

<p>“I refuse to offer alternatives to HYP”
Wow, and some people say chivalry is dead…</p>

<p>Pomona:Occidental
Whitman: Wilamette
Fordham:U of San Francisco
Bucknell:Franklin and Marshall
UCSD:U of Hawaii
Stanford: the Claremont Colleges</p>

35

<p>LAC Edition</p>

<p>Brown…Haverford, Oberlin, or Wesleyan
Columbia… Amherst, Vassar, or Wesleyan
Cornell… Colgate, Grinnell, or Vassar
Dartmouth… Bowdoin, Middlebury, or Williams
Harvard… Amherst, Carleton, or Haverford
Penn… Hamilton, Swarthmore, or Wellesley
Princeton… Middlebury, Pomona, or Wellesley
Yale… Bowdoin, Swarthmore, or Williams</p>

<p>(self-imosed rule that no LAC could be mentioned more than 2x)</p>

36

<p>^^Ooops, meant to post this verssion (small changes on Harvard and Yale).</p>

<p>Brown… Haverford, Oberlin, or Wesleyan
Columbia… Amherst, Vassar, or Wesleyan
Cornell… Colgate, Grinnell, or Vassar
Dartmouth… Bowdoin, Middlebury, or Williams
Harvard… Carleton, Haverford, or Williams
Penn… Hamilton, Swarthmore, or Wellesley
Princeton… Middlebury, Pomona, or Wellesley
Yale… Amherst, Bowdoin, or Swarthmore</p>

37

<p>Ivies:
Harvard- MIT, maybe Stanford
Columbia- UChicago, Rice (all the admission reps from these schools travel together coincidentally: [Exploring</a> Educational Excellence](<a href=“http://www.exploringeducationalexcellence.org/index.html]Exploring”>http://www.exploringeducationalexcellence.org/index.html))
Brown- Middlebury
Yale- Stanford, Rice
Princeton- Duke
Cornell- Northwestern, Hopkins, WashU
Penn- Emory (have to agree with this one)
Dartmouth- Vanderbilt</p>

<p>Non-Ivies:
Duke- Davidson and Vanderbilt
Stanford- Rice</p>

<p>These are just my opinions… you might view them as wrong. I really don’t feel like explaining why i categorized them the way i did.</p>

38

<p>By the way, I don’t see any connection to Princeton and Rice… I visited both schools and they are totally different. Rice has a residential college system, and Princeton doesn’t. I also feel that the people at Princeton are more competitive than those at Rice. Out of all the Ivies, Rice is most similar to Yale in that both have similar residential college systems that dominate the social scene and their student bodies tend to consist of more diverse, down to earth students. Not saying that the Ivies aren’t diverse, but I feel that Yale is one of the more diverse ones.</p>

39

<p>I don’t see Brown - Middlebury. Brown is suburban and “free”, Middlebury is rural and has a LAC feel.</p>

<p>Also don;t see Dartmouth - Vandy. Dartmouth is much more diverse and LACy- new-englandy…whereas kids at Vandy is more southern (just check out the frats at both schools - I did when I visited both - WAY different).</p>

<p>Dartmouth - Middlebury I see as similar.</p>

40

<p>you know i come down to this conclusion that we’ve linked almost all the schools together… what’s the criteria you use to determine which schools are of similar sort? i mean, like, Duke has been linked with so many schools!
mine:
academicism
Princeton- Columbia, U Chicago
academically free
Stanford, Harvard- Carnegie Mellon, UCB, Brown
ok i’m not so sure about all these things i typed :S
make any adjustment whatever you want…i’ve only started my own college search a few weeks ago, so.</p>