<p>Hi, I'm relatively unknowlegable when it comes to picking colleges (I'm the kind that looks at the rankings xP). Ive decided that it would be more helpful if somebody could help me in my search for a college.</p>
<p>If I want to major in biochem or be premed and want to end up a Doctor...</p>
<h2>What order should i rank the following schools?</h2>
<p>I know that Harvard Yale and Stanford have great bio/med programs but im probably not gonna end up there so im just throwing them in for fun :).</p>
<p>Please rank and include others if you can think of any </p>
<p>Chicago, Cornell and other schools known for grade deflation are often paassed over by pre meds for schools where they can get a higher GPA. The UCs also have an ugly curve. Harvard recently announced it will be giving out fewer As too. Med schools care more about GPA then the school you earned it at in general.</p>
<p>You would think, but it more complicated than that. Many pre-meds never make it into med school because they are weeded out by not doing well in key classes.</p>
<p>School reputation does not help as much as you think. My friend has a d that graduated from UCB with low GPA, around 3.0ish, did not get into any medical schools that she applied to , had to do a graduate degree(MS) and reapplied. She got in the second time she applied. Another friend at work, his son got less than 3.0 GPA, he had to forget medical school, he is now studying pharmacy. These kids have great high school GPAs. I think you have to have at least 3.5 or better. But check out the mdapplicants.com, a lot of students with GPA hovering around 3.5-3.7 got rejected to a lot of schools too.</p>
<p>Can't speak for Berkeley, but outside of MIT and probably Cal Tech, I haven't seen a difference in the ability of any Top 20 school in getting its undergrads into med school.</p>
<p>It's kindda hard to rank these schools based on their premed programs. Basically, u really can't go wrong with any of these.</p>
<p>Cornell has a particularly big premed program, with like 3 different types of bio majors and probably 10,000+ premeds. The big UCs might have something similar, although I'm not positively sure. So if u like big schools with big programs, then go for Cornell and the UCs.</p>
<p>If u want more medium-sized colleges with smaller programs, then look at the other ones. Northwestern has a special 7-year program combining college and med school called HPME, but it's very hard to get into. Brown also has a similar program - this one takes the usual 8 years, but it has affiliations with Dartmouth, so u get to explore two schools. Another school u might wanna consider is Johns Hopkins, a medium-sized school that's a biggy in bio/premed.</p>
<p>Top LACs like SWAP (Swarthmore, Williams, Amherst, Pomona) do really well with med school placement, partly because they offer many opportunities for undergrad research, more personal classes and instruction, and a broader liberal arts background.</p>
<p>Pyang88 has got it right; it's really unproductive to rank the schools you mentioned as regards medical school placement. You won't get much critical information as the distinctions are insignificant.</p>
<p>As others have indicated, attend a college that you believe you'll enjoy and learn something, and then do really well in class, particularly in your science foundation courses. Remember, medical schools do not want all applicants to be Biology or Chemistry majors.</p>
<p>"Cornell has a particularly big premed program, with like 3 different types of bio majors and probably 10,000+ premeds." </p>
<p>lol Let's not get carried away here. Approx. 1000 freshmen at Cornell start out as premed each year and 200 apply as seniors (with another 200 applying as alumni).</p>
<p>what ever happened to Johns Hopkins University? I know it's not ivy, but it's known for medical as yale/harvard are for law...otherwise i would say cornell is best</p>
<p>It doesn't matter as much as to where you go as to how you do when you get there. The top school still has students that don't make it. Where ever you go, it's going to be up to you. </p>
<p>Just because I buy Nikes, doesn't mean I play like Jordan. </p>
<p>Find a place where you will feel good about attending. A place that gives you a good fit on and off campus. Remember to have fun along the way, it will make you a better doctor in the long run.</p>
<p>Opie:
lol
well if you dont have shoes you will never be able to play like jordan eh? ;)</p>
<p>Anyways thx guys, its just that right now i dont know where i would be a good fit...everyone has differing opinions on everything. thanks for the input though.</p>
<p>"well if you dont have shoes you will never be able to play like jordan eh"</p>
<p>In some people's minds.. absolutely. They need a "label" to make it happen. </p>
<p>I think you get the point, where ever you go, do your thing and make it happen. Besides, think how interesting your story will be doing it that way vs. a cookie cutter approach. </p>
<p>I have a D that is prevet at a school that doesn't have prevet... how bout that? She actually turned down a place with a prevet because the fit wasn't there. It means she'll finish in eight, instead of 7. </p>
<p>But..... another thing it will do, is make her do more footwork to get it done, more independence in getting there, not following a school track...
Why would that be important? Most vets are small business owners, self employed. Learning early (while in college) that if she wants, she has to go get. This forces her to start to think like a small business owner. This will help her later on.... </p>
<p>Son also starting med school this fall from small LAC. I think there were 3 premeds grads this year, 2 got into med schools first year out. </p>
<p>So consider the school that will get the most out of you. Inclass and out.</p>