IGETC and Prereqs? HELP PLEASE

Transfer Students UC Transfers
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<p>Hey there, just wanted to clear something up about prereqs. I was a student who was rescinded by all the UC's so I'm now taking the community college route. I have about 24 units in AP credit in Lit and Comp, US History, Spanish Lang and Lit, Statistics, and Human Geography, all which go towards IGETC. Apparently, I only need 60 units to transfer to a UC. Now, my question is that do I really need to complete ALL the prerequisites if I want to transfer into my intended major of Microbiology? Here are the lower division requirements: BILD 1 & 3, Mathematics 10A, B, 11/10C or 20A, B, C Chemistry 6A, B, C, and 6BL Physics 1A+1AL, 1B+1BL, 1C+1CL or 2A, B, C and one lab (2BL, 2CL, 2DL).</p>

<p>Now, if I had to complete all these prereqs, it would be impossible for me to finish within 2 years, and might even have to go into one semester in a fourth year, since there's the requirements of IGETC that you have to meet before transferring as well.</p>

<p>My classes this semester are as follows:
Principles of Macroeconomics
Political Science
Calculus
History of Classical Music
English 2 (Trying to crash)</p>

<p>Only one class is a prereq, all the others are general ed for IGETC, and I would still need to take one or two more classes to complete IGETC.</p>

<p>Tl;dr: I have 24 units with AP credit, and apparently you only need 60, but with prereqs and IGETC requirements combined, would be close to about 100+ units. Do transfer students need to complete ALL the prereqs before transferring? I was hoping to transfer out within a year with summer school, due to the AP credit. If I do have to complete all of them, then I'll probably have to stick around for another year or two, maybe even a 4th year for one semester because some of my prereqs are only offered in spring, and I have to take one before I can take the next level class.</p>

<p>Someone, PLEASE help me. I'm freaking out, how is someone supposed to do this in two years? I thought those 24 units would let me transfer within a year, apparently not, looks like I'm stuck for 3+ years, even with the AP credit...</p>

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<p>My cousin will have about 100+ by the time he transfers for astrophysics. Most high unit majors( psychics, math, chem , etc) need to take way more units to completely the prerequisites and stay longer at a CC. You don’t have to complete all the prerequisites( depending on the UC) and still transfer; but it’s highly recommended.</p>

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<p>Well that made my day a lot worse. :frowning: Those lower division requirements are for UCSD. Can’t I take some of them at UCSD? I really don’t want to stay longer at this CC… it’s a horrible environment.</p>

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<p>Can’t you finish in 3 years if you do full time in summer and winter?</p>

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<p>UCSD actually has a pretty impacted Biology department; as a result, you will need to finish all prerequisites and have a competitive GPA to have a chance. </p>

<p>Source: [Enrollment</a> Management Information](<a href=“http://biology.ucsd.edu/undergrad/enrollmentmanagement.html]Enrollment”>http://biology.ucsd.edu/undergrad/enrollmentmanagement.html)</p>

<p>If I got this correctly, you need 2 Biology classes, 3 math classes (you are taking one during the fall, so 2), 3 chemistry, and 3 physics classes plus another 2 GE classes to completely IGETC, right?</p>

<p>2012Fall: macro, PS, Cal, HoCM and maybe English
2013 Spring: Bio 1, Math B, Chem 6A
Summer: 2 GEs you need
2013 Fall: Bio 3, Chem B, Math 10C
Winter: Physics 1A+lab
2014 Spring: Chem C, Physics 1B + lab
Summer: Physics 1C + lab</p>

<p>If I got all this right( I seriously doubt it), It seems like you can do it in 2 years, but it looks like it will be extremely HARD.</p>

<p>I also did not take into account classes that they only offer once a year. If you want to get out as soon as possible, you might want to look at another UC where they might not be impacted and try to transfer. You won’t have to complete all the prerequisites and still have a chance. Someone on this board got into Davis with out completing the bio, cal and chem classes as prerequisites.</p>

<p>EDIT: Here is what the person said who got accepted at UCD:</p>

<p>“I got into the Animal Science major at UC Davis without the Bio series, O-Chem series, or Calc series completed (when I transferred, I still needed to complete BIS 2B and 2C, Calc II, and the entire O-Chem series).” </p>

<p>But then again her major is Animal Science. It might not be the best example.</p>

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<p>Thank you very much for this info. I’ll look into Davis and try to relax a little bit, but this taking quite a toll on me. I’ll try to work something out with the counselors. I also think I may be able to take more classes during the summer because I’m apparently allowed to take 19 units during the summer, or at least that’s what I hear. </p>

<p>Once again, thanks. I asked my counselor how long it would take me to transfer, and she told me I would be able to in two years or less even, but it seems impossible, and I think that she may be wrong in that statement.</p>

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<p>IGETC is not nearly as important as prereqs. Especially since you have so many APs! Drop all of those classes and focus on your prereqs, and maybe next semester or the semester after (or summer) you can throw a few GEs that you <em>know</em> you need.</p>

<p>You do not need IGETC.</p>

<p>You only have (if I am counting correctly) 12 prereqs. You can easily do that in one year.</p>

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<p>Here’s where I messed up. My counselor told me that I needed to complete IGETC, so she placed me in those classes. I went along with it because, well, she’s a counselor. Now pretty much all the natural sciences are full, and it’s pretty impossible to get into Bio, Chem, or Physics this semester. </p>

<p>But you said I didn’t need IGETC? Oh god, I could have dropped these classes last month, but because I assumed I needed to fulfill IGETC, I just kept them. -sigh-</p>

<p>Also, just checked the classes online for later semesters, and ALL the Biology and Chemistry classes are at the EXACT SAME TIME. Bio 1, 2, Chem 1, 2, 12, 13, all at the same time. Which means that I could only take one Biology or Chemistry course per semester. How could they all be at the same time? I am ****ing fuming right now. Bio and Chem are 6 prereqs combined, so I would only be able to take ONE per semester, unless I’m able to take some in summer, and something will probably happen to screw up summer as well.</p>

<p>I think I just want to give up entirely, this is beyond insane. An additional 3 years just to finish Bio and Chem? I really want to speak with someone, I might as well forget about the sciences.</p>

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<p>If you are going to submit a TAG, then it seems like you don’t need IGETC for most schools.
Except for UCSD. You will need IGETC for San Diego</p>

<p>Source: <a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/counselors/files/ETS12_TAGMatrix_final_07112012.pdf[/url]”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/counselors/files/ETS12_TAGMatrix_final_07112012.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Scroll to the bottom to “TAG qualifications (continued)”</p>

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<p>To clarify, you don’t need IGETC, but you will be at a big disadvantage if you don’t have it done, unless the school specifically recommends that you don’t complete it.</p>

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<p>Ahh, okay. Just noticed that UC Davis doesn’t require IGETC, so that’s good. But having all the bio and chem classes at the same exact time is going to murder me. Bio 1 and 2 and Chemistry 1, 2, 12, 13 are all at 9:30 AM - 12:00 PM Tuesday and Thursday, and at 9:10- 10:00 AM on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. I can literally only take one at a time per semester. What can I do in this situation? Beg and plead to admissions and counseling to work something out? :(</p>

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<p>Nope, if classes are at the same time there’s nothing you can do about it. Many students run into this problem because of the recent budget cuts in CA many sections have been cancelled for a lot of classes. The only option I’ve seen people take is taking courses at multiple CCC’s.</p>

<p>Also definitely double check about the 19 unit per summer thing because at my CC the max units you could take in summer was 9 sem units.</p>

<p>Most science majors take around 3 years for transfer, that’s just how it is. Of course some people finish earlier but they tend to hurt their GPA’s doing so.</p>

<p>If I were you I would definitely start your chem/bio asap since chem takes 2 years (4 semesters) to complete (assuming you need to take 2x gchem 2x ochem). The GE classes should be mixed into your major req classes. Save the easiest ones for when your taking the harder science classes.</p>

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<p>Honestly, get ready, because it looks like you are going to be there for a while. You have a lot of prerequisites to complete and it seems like you are barely going to start CC.
My advice is not to worry so much about transferring at the moment-- but keep it in the back of your head-- and start taking those prerequisites. Look into transfer option next summer because a lot could change in a year. The time will pass before you know it.</p>

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<p>There is a reason why those classes are so early and inconvenient-they are preventing people who don’t need the class from registering and taking the spot away from majors. If you are that major, you will have to suck it up. </p>

<p>If you really can’t handle all of those classes I really suggest summer session. 4-12 weeks instead of 16 is so much more ideal. You won’t be able to get them all done during summer obviously, but it would be nice for you to knock out one or two intensive ones.</p>

<p>Just because the classes are full doesn’t mean you are doomed. Definitely try another CCC and add yourself to the wait list (if possible) and crash EVERY single class you can on the first day-and get there early and introduce yourself to the prof. Usually they will add a few extra students and if you show up on the first day, they might add you. If you do get one of those, immediately drop the Econ class. It seems the most unnecessary (and difficult) of all of your GEs, since you are already registered for poly sci and have AP credits for other social sciences.</p>

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<p>Oh, I meant full as in even the waitlist is full. Also, the counselor wasn’t sure if Human Geo would give me credit towards the social science IGETC requirement, so she placed me in Econ 40 as well. I’ll try and drop either that or Pol 5. </p>

<p>You see, my first day of class was today, and it has just been a complete hell for me trying to figure out how to transfer within a reasonable amount of time. I really don’t know how I’m going to handle this. I just wish I could take some prereqs at UCSD or something, anything to help me out.</p>

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<p>Oh, I meant full as in even the waitlist is full. Also, the counselor wasn’t sure if Human Geo would give me credit towards the social science IGETC requirement, so she placed me in Econ 40 as well. I’ll try and drop either that or Pol 5. </p>

<p>You see, my first day of class was today, and it has just been a complete hell for me trying to figure out how to transfer within a reasonable amount of time. I really don’t know how I’m going to handle this. I just wish I could take some prereqs at UCSD or something, anything to help me out.</p>

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<p>UCSD is on the quarter system, like all UCs except for Berkeley and Merced.</p>

<p>The listed prerequisites for UCSD microbiology total to 63 quarter units, which is equivalent to 42 semester units. You need 90 quarter units or 60 semester units to be eligible to transfer as a junior.</p>

<p>If your community college is on the semester system, you may find that a two course sequence there articulates to a three course sequence at UCSD. For example:</p>

<p>[ASSIST</a> Report: LANEY 11-12 UCSD Articulation Agreement by Major](<a href=“http://web1.assist.org/web-assist/report.do?agreement=aa&reportPath=REPORT_2&reportScript=Rep2.pl&event=19&dir=2&sia=LANEY&ria=UCSD&ia=UCSD&oia=LANEY&aay=11-12&ay=12-13&dora=MICROBIOLOGY]ASSIST”>http://web1.assist.org/web-assist/report.do?agreement=aa&reportPath=REPORT_2&reportScript=Rep2.pl&event=19&dir=2&sia=LANEY&ria=UCSD&ia=UCSD&oia=LANEY&aay=11-12&ay=12-13&dora=MICROBIOLOGY)</p>

<p>Laney’s CHEM 1A-1B articulates to UCSD’s CHEM 6A-6B-6C (and 7L) and Laney’s PHYS 3A-3B articulates to UCSD’s PHYS 1A-1AL-2A-2AL-3A-3AL.</p>

<p>For whether AP credit satisfies IGETC, search your community college’s web site for a document listing which AP credit counts for which IGETC category. Searching the web for “AP credit IGETC” indicates that at least some community colleges accept AP human geography for IGETC category 4E, but you want to check your specific community college.</p>

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<p>Note that what may delay your ability to transfer is the long sequence of prerequisites, which is chemistry (4 semesters or 5 quarters). So try to get started on the chemistry courses as soon as you can.</p>

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<p>Even if the wait list is full, you should still show up for class.</p>

<p>But even if you are stuck with all of these classes this semester-so? You only have 12 prereqs, right? If you take 5 next spring, 2 in the summer, and 5 in the fall you will be all done with an extra semester. Better plan: 4 in the spring, 2 in the summer, 3 in the fall and 3 the next spring. That gives you lots of time to either study or take more GE classes, though after this semester you wouldn’t need many more.</p>

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<p>@Shannon</p>

<p>"If you take 5 next spring, 2 in the summer, and 5 in the fall you will be all done with an extra semester. Better plan: 4 in the spring, 2 in the summer, 3 in the fall and 3 the next spring. " </p>

<p>There is absolutely no way he can even pull that off. Those are not easy class and to suggest that he take 5 in one semester is a complete over kill. Calculus needs to be taken in order from A-C because A is a prerequisite for B and so forth. The same goes for Chemistry, Bio and Physics. Take 3 at a time and nothing more like I mentioned. Remember that you still need to pass these classes with A’s and B’s.</p>

<p>I do not recommend you take 2 during the summer either; you are going to regret it. </p>

<p>I’ll say it again, you need to pull A’s not C’s and D’s!</p>