<p>I went to c a counselor today to discuss the 70 unit cap, just in case.</p>
<p>Anyhow, we started talking about IGETC.</p>
<p>He tells me Chem majors don't need IGETC.</p>
<p>Then i tell him that i spoke to 6 counselors that told me that i did need igetc, he just said they tell that to everyone.</p>
<p>Anyhow, now i am confused, help.</p>
<p>Are counselors that ignorant?</p>
<p>No, but some students are......it's my understanding that Chem, or most Engineerings and Science majors find that IGETC is not accepted at the schools they are transferring to. It's actually stipulated on the IGETC form.</p>
<p>Before you put down counselor wholesale, you've got to understand that they are responsible for knowing and doling out a lot of information that doesn't seem relevant to them.</p>
<p>Many UCs claim that IGETC is not recommended for certain majors like Chemistry because they want you to concentrate on your major courses. Also, some schools at the UCs do not accept IGETC like the Henry Samueli School of Engineering at UCLA and the College of Engineering at Berkeley among others.
But some UCs fail to mention that if you don't complete IGETC (if accepted for your major) prior to transfer you still need to fulfill GE requirements as stipulated by them. This could mean a vigorous GE course load which may lengthen your time to graduation. So, the best thing to do is to complete IGETC (if it is accepted for your major) if you don't want to fool with GE courses after you transfer. I heard from my counselor that GE requirements at UCLA and Berkeley can be brutal. I don't know about other UCs, but a friend at Davis claims that it's pretty tough there too. Instead of a three unit Econ class at CC, her friend is taking a five unit Econ class in a quarter system. I wish I could complete IGETC, but it's too late. Good thing I managed to get a partial certification coz I am short by one course. I think CCs allow partial IGETCs if you're missing 1 or 2 courses, but they cannot be the English and Math courses.<br>
Also, you have to be careful which type of counselor you're seeing. At my CC they have two types: one only has knowledge about AA/AS requirements and know nothing about transfer procedures or IGETC, and the other is usually in the Transfer Center who is very knowledgeable about transfer requirements to both CSUs and UCs and possibly private institutions. I've come to find out the hard way :( One way to tell if your counselor knows his stuff is to look around his office. What do you see that tells you he knows his stuff? Like that folder that says "Annual UC Counselor Meeting" (I forget the actual title) that lets you know if he's updated with his stuff. I guess you can always check on his credentials if your school offers it online. </p>
<p>By the way, where are you transferring to? I'm also transferring as a Chem major to Berkeley's College of Chemistry. :) Good luck!</p>
<p>Well, on assist.org for UCLA, it says that it is RECOMMENDED.</p>
<p>How do i interpet that?</p>
<p>any ideas.</p>
<p>Bruin, it says for engineering majors on IGETC, nothing about science majors.
Los Angeles | The Henry Samueli School of Engineering and Applied Science does not accept the IGETC. </p>
<p>I have the right to put down counselors when they give me wrong info. They are conselors, it's their job to keep track of stuff and give student the correct info. Looks like some are not doing a good job.</p>
<p>Bruin, if u're supporting counselors who give out wrong info student, thats just absurd. </p>
<p>Good thing they are not doctors b.c if they would make a mistake at their job, someone hurt, not acedemicly, but physically.</p>
<p>I work in health care, if i'd give one of my patients the wrong bottle of medicine, i'd be fired and possibly sued.</p>
<p>highschoolda, you should complete IGETC because if you don't UCLA will probably tell you to complete remaining GEs in your first year there. I was a CHEM major transferring to UCLA before Berkeley came through. I looked around UCLA's site and found out that at the College of Letters and Sciences, it is strongly recommended that u complete IGETC and what's more it is accepted. I was going to complete IGETC b4 going to UCLA because I know that they'll just give you a brutal GE course load. If you cannot finish it in time I think it would be a good idea to get a partial certification so that you'll just need to do the 1 or 2 courses remaining. Sometimes the UC will allow you to complete those at a CC. Typically they'll give you one year to complete it. Might as well get it over and done with before you transfer so you need not worry about GEs and concentrate on your upper division course work. I hope this helps. Good luck!</p>
<p>Thanks zuzzieq.</p>
<p>I guess the 6 counselors who i spoke b4 today were all correct, and this one woman has no idea what she is talking about. IGETC is the needed as well.</p>
<p>Which is fine b/c i just need 1 class and i will be all done.</p>
<p>suzzieq, what was ur GPA? Did u do both physics and Ochem?</p>
<p>what was the conclusion of your 70 unit cap discussion?</p>
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<p>I am actually first year student at CC. UCLA is my # 1 choice when i apply b/c they have the General chem major, which is what i wanna do. It gives great flexibility for other classes like Microbio, molecular bio, etc.</p>
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<p>If u go over, u will be spanked by the dean. :; Naw, i told him i might have 73, he said it's ok i'll get course credit, but extra units won't be applied towards graduation.</p>
<p>highschoolda:</p>
<p>Glad you're going to complete IGETC. I have completed all the courses the the UCs require including the three semesters (or four at my cc) of physics, two semesters of Organic, three semesters of calc, the five unit linear algebra and differential equations course, two semesters english, foreign lang. req., two semesters gen chem., ACS organic exam (for Berkeley only), and other IGETC courses.<br>
I was looking at the Chemistry/Material Sciences major. Looks like they incorporate a little engineering in there. Do you plan to go to Med school?
My GPA would be higher if not for the high curves in O Chem and tough exams. I'll tell you my GPA via private message if you tell me yours :):)</p>
<p>Mine is 3.58.</p>
<p>I am really hoping to go to Pharmacy school. it's my dream.</p>
<p>i'd love to get ur private message. :)</p>
<p>By doing IGETC, i won't have Physics, but UCLA counselor told me it's ok as long as i have Ochem. I will be 73 units w/ IGETC, 1.5 years of calc, ochem, regular chem, and 2 bio classes from UCLA extension.</p>
<p>Anyhow, look forward to ur PM :)</p>
<p>but i don't think collegeconfidential has a PM option. </p>
<p>Maybe u can post ur GPA and diguise it by integrating it. </p>
<p>nobody knows who u are here, so i makes no difference really.</p>
<p>highschoolda:</p>
<p>Oh alright...I don't feel so bad now since you posted yours :)</p>
<p>It's currently 3.56, but if all goes well this Spring, it should be 3.60. If not, then it should stay the same. :)</p>
<p>Which Pharm school u thinking of? UCSF is pretty good. I may go to med school, or maybe PhD. I did think of Pharm school once...might be a possibility.</p>
<p>yep thats the best one really. But i'd go to any one thats in Cali and the close by states even Nevada. They admission is really competative. :( UCSF is 4 years i think, i prefer Pacific, which is 3.</p>
<p>UCSD opened one recently, it's connected to their Med school, and people say it's really awesome.</p>
<p>USC is obviously the closest one to LA, where i live. I'd be thrilled to go to any really. USC also has many option such as MBA, JD, Phd.</p>
<p>HOw many years did u spend at CC, was 3.56 the GPA u applied w/?</p>
<p>yeah, I am what you call a "non-traditional" student. I have been in CC for gosh, a total of 5 years!! Woo hoo, screwed up big time in the beginning. Thank goodness for academic renewal. Yup, that's the GPA I applied with. Phew!
I say go to UCSF. I'm sure it'll be worth the extra year. Plus you're already a California resident.
I don't like UCSD. Admissions officer was rude before giving a decision because of coursework I did in another country. Said it doesn't have what she wanted to see. I just sent a sarcastic email to her, and got in anyway. Dang, good thing I'm not going to SD.</p>
<p>jeez you guys...get a room already</p>
<p>i think 3.5 in science and math classes is a good GPA. You should be proud of that IMO. </p>
<p>I obvious have similar GPA and an encouraged by ur acceptance. :)</p>
<p>anyhow, thanks for ur advice about IGETC.</p>
<p>Highschool......you are obviously ESL, so I'm not going to go into what I said and how you misinterpreted wht I said. Have a good life. I have extensive years as an advisor, but apparently my time and energies are misspent on this thread. Thanks.</p>
<p>what's ESL?</p>
<p>Seems like after ur extensive years as an advisor u still didn't know that it is recommended and makes sense for chem majors to do igetc. </p>
<p>But since u like to talk about Misinterpretation, u are the queen of that. In the thread about the kid who plans to accumulate 115 units, i said that we can not give guarantees about what might occur and stressed the obvious need to c reps and counselors, u said i was questioning your knowledge. Doesn't get any more blatant than that. </p>
<p>but it's ok, we all have faults</p>
<p>I've got to disagree with suzzieq about completing IGETC because GE classes at the UC's are harder. The only reason not to do IGETC is because your major has so much pre-major work that you wouldn't be able to take it all if you did IGETC. And if that's the case, would you really want to take those classes at a UC instead? Call me crazy, but I'd rather take an intro course in economics or humanities than a year of calculus based physics.</p>
<p>Also, I, personaly, was able to fulfill most of the GE requirements for any UC other than UCSD by taking a few GE classes here and there.</p>