<p>Lol thank you dude we have to get a 2400 on our sat, 36 on our act, 5 on 15+ ap tests, 800 on 4+ sat subject tests, AND have good extracurriculars, have an amazing interview, and who can forget the notorious college essay describing your entire life purpose. getting into HYPMS says much more about you as a human being</p>
<p>Hi,
India has been overly hyped in many ways, many times over China, 'cause it’s only the democratically governed of such gigantic size, nothing else, to be honest! The point is how can IIT complete with the Ivies if most of the country’s stellar students (Olypiads,…) all go to the latter! India still lacks much of the resources (human & financial capital & other human & physical infrastructure) to rival. One Indian billionaire went to a medium sized country in southeast asia once grumbled “I love this country and want to live here. Why is India so undeveloped?”.</p>
<p>well i am a undergrad currently in IIT Kanpur…most people in india think that getting into IITs guarantees success, but the fact is it does not. people from america and other western countries think that IITians are super nerds and very bookish…no…that amount of study is what an indian student has to do on a daily basis. and yes most of the IITians lack leadership skills. Heck!! they cant even speak proper english. people think that iitians are very well educated and smart. my entire country thinks that iit is the only path of success and that all iitian are very successful, but thats not the truth…yes placement salaries are the highest in india but only one or two guys get a $100,000 package the rest get only $12,000. last year a few guys from harvard came for our fest and their presentation and communication was awesome, far better than what we has ever seen. most iitians cant even squeak a complete sentence in english. in terms of gaining knowledge and value addition, what an above average university in the USA can add to a student is beyond the scope of any college in india. BUT ONE THING, when it comes to brains and logical reasoning and aptitude, well foreign students don’t stand a chance. these iitians have a very sharp brain. most top companies hire iitians at a good salary not because they come as good engineers but because of the fact that they have the mind and potential to become the best in the world…u may easily find a very knowledgeable person but is is very difficult to find a person with excellent thinking capabilities and that is what an iitian has.
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today many iitians are at the helm of multinationals but the fact is that these guys are hard working and down to earth. mind you, iit did not add much to them, it just gave them a platform to launch themselves, these people were talented from the beginning. its just like having common sense, either you were born with it or without it. common sense can’t be taught or be mugged up.
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… SO PLEASE DON’T COMPARE IITs TO HARVARD AND MIT AND PRINCETON, THESE AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES ARE FAR BETTER THAN IITs BUT THE QUALITY OF STUDENT IS MUCH BETTER AT IITs</p>
<p>i wouldn’t say IIT is better than the top us colleges but the people at IIT could all easily get into the top us colleges</p>
<p>some people are taking this far too seriously. I’m betting that if students from the schools were to switch places they would all feel VERY out of place.
Mainly because the schools all have different ways of working, different priorities, and different purposes. Students from IIT may be used to an environment where everyone spent as much time studying as then or try as hard as them. So in America they would be shocked when they find people in the US who act totally differently and see a college as diverse as some of those in the US.
Similarly, the Americans would be shocked to go to an IIT school and find students who were totally different from what they are used to.
However, given ample time I believe that both groups would adapt to their new surroundings and do just as well as they would have in their original university. Because if you’re not able to adapt to a new challenge or a new environment then it won’t matter what college you go to, because you won’t be able to face the ever-changing job market.
So can everyone stop trying to assert “well MY university is the BEST” and just agree that they’re all different. I mean that’s like trying to say that a top-level culinary school and be accurately compared to a school like MIT. the purposes are entirely different.</p>
<p>u are a complete and utter idiot… im of indian heritage and have a cousin at iit gandhinagar atm. Im from london and am at oxford studying ba in jurisprudence(law degree).
The entrance requirements for the course was AAA, now only 1 out of 12 students ever get 3xAAA. Now oxford’s MINIMUM requirement is 3xAAA, so that means 1 out of 12 students already wont be getting in.</p>
<p>Then you have to factor in that out of those with 3xAAA, only 1 out of 7 is allowed to get into oxford . therefore 12x7 is 1 out of 84 students of who do the a level get in, but then you have to times that by 2 because even though students get 3xAAA, they are in many situations, discouraged from applying because of the sheer competition or predujice. So the answer would more likely be that anywhere from 1 in 160 to 1in 200 students of a levels get into oxford</p>
<p>Although it is much much easier to get in if you apply for classics or geography etc. In uk we apply directly for subject and uni, unlike india and havard</p>
<p>And mathematics at oxbridge and havard is mainly full of IMO and putnam winners and top 50’ers.
and even then, if students at IIT were that good big companies would stop hiring oxbridge and havard/yale grads, due to how much they hve to pay these guys vs the indian guys</p>
<p>i agree with nehasingh…infrastructure wise,leadership skill wise IITians dont stand a chance with the rest of the top colleges in the world but the students who manage to get into an IIT are absolute geniuses.i myself have faced the examination twice but couldnt make it through and the guys who actually made were academically brilliant.So the truth is IIT != H+M+P coz they cannot be compared.</p>
<p>I’ve noticed that in foreign countries, the high school life is tough as hell, but college life is soooo chill. But in America, it’s the other way around. That’s why American graduate work is the most impressive and matters the most. I know how it is in Korea: people say that American kids are so lazy and have it good compared to Korea, but once the kid in Korea gets into, say Seoul Univ, he/she goes to parties and hookers and all that. What is the Harvard student doing while the kid in Seoul Univ is partying?</p>
<p>That is why Americans are truly the hardest working people. America has the most work hours of the year with the least vacations, and gives the best opportunities for anyone willing to put in the work. </p>
<p>Also, I can tell you that Europeans (esp Jews) have a disproportionate amount of people with IQ>140, thus leading the way for most of the world’s innovations to come through, as you can see from your history book 
so I can see where the “obnoxious” Harvard student comes from, cuz it’s true. Oh btw I’m Asian so I’m not biased.</p>
<p>IITs have been around since the 50s. They were formed to improve India’s infrastructure. That hasn’t happened and it’s been 50+ years.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the Americans invented computers, programming languages, networks and internet in less than 50 yrs all without IITs help. They have an amazing railroad and highway system engineered and created long before IITs were formed all done in less than 50 yrs without IIT’s help. They put a man on the moon without IIT’s help. </p>
<p>So before you guys get too cocky, the American graduate is not so dumb. He is probably in the garage inventing the next engineering marvel, while you guys are solving differential equations.</p>
<p>Nuff said!</p>
<p>WHO SAID TO YOU THAT ONLY SUPER SMART ARE ACCEPTED IN IITs ? </p>
<p>If YOU ARE A SC/ST OR OBC CAST PEOPLE ,YOU CAN GET ADMISSION EVEN ON A VERY LOW CUT OFF RATE BECAUSE THEY GIVE CAST BASED QUOTAS IN SCORES AND ADMISSIONS HOW UNFAIR TO OTHER CASTS ? IITs ARE PREJUDICED AND THEY WILL NOT GET ANY GOOD ENGINEER BY THE CAST BIASED POLICY . UNDERSTAND THE REAL FACT NOT HEAR -SAY.</p>
<p>haha… good one popi!!Thats soo true…
I got into both IIT and colleges like Berkeley…
I know that both are super hard and you do different things in both… hey but also become better at it all haha</p>
<p>to , quiverfox </p>
<p>thanks Quiverfox that’s what I wanted to share .And for those who think that getting admission in U.S. colleges is easy, no it is not so ,even if you scored high in all test still then ,they will consider your financial status and all essay briefings ,while in Indian colleges only passing an exam makes you eligible .</p>
<p>Yes yes let’s all just revive old threads now -____-</p>
<p>MODERATOR, PLEASE, CLOSE THIS THREAD.</p>
<p>In terms of hardest to get in, Peking University and Tsinghua Univ of China overwhelm IIT, UTokyo, Seoul National or any other colleges on this planet. </p>
<p>In 2013, there are 9.12 million Chinese students who attended the National College Entrance Exam in China. so in order to enter Peking University and Tsinghua University, the ratio is as low as 7000/9120000 = 0.07%!!</p>
<p>Peking University > IIT > UTokyo > Seoul National U > Harvard > Oxbridge</p>