ilr questions

[abanks]

<p>alright, ilr seems really interesting to me, but I have a concern. I still want a bit of a liberal arts education along with the ilr program, would you catagorize ilr as realllly pre-professional, and are there are lot of free credits to use in the school of arts and science? thanks.</p>

[gregcroom4]

<p>also to add on, same question but from a atransfer’s perspective. Do transfers still have enough free credits to take different classes at other schools?</p>

[gomestar]

<p>there’s plenty of room the the schedule to take other classes for a more liberal arts education. You can even minor (concentration) in most of the departments in CAS. At first, you’ll have to get some of the required classes for ILR out of the way (though not all are in ILR), but after that you’ll have plenty of time. </p>

<p>The same is true for transfers, but as expected they have less free room as most of the transfered classes don’t count as the ILR required ones.</p>

[diehldun]

<p>Yeah, I’m going to be an ILR GT (guaranteed transfer) next fall, and I think there will still be enough (though tighter) free credit to take different classes at other schools for transfers, depending on how much you get done the first year. Specifically, I’m meeting the Writing, Econ, Western Intellectual Traditions, and Organization Behavior requirements; I’m still lacking the Cultural Perspectives and Science & Technology. But I should think there’s still enough room (I want to do some AEM/Hotel stuff too).</p>

[gomestar]

<p>the more you can get out of the way at another college, the more free electives you’ll have to take at Cornell … obviously.</p>

[abanks]

<p>unrelated question, are the students at the university really segregated by schools? Gomestar, do you find that kids in one school are friends with kids in other schools as well?</p>

[gomestar]

<p>no to the first, yes to the second</p>

[Figgy]

<p>The business classes are also mixed with psych which is also really nice. Ogranizational Behavior and Human Resources are business but also sociology and psych related. Labor History is obviously history. It’s a really nice mix cuz I don’t really like direct businesss types of classes.</p>

<p>I’d say half of my friends are ILR and the rest are spread throughout the schools. It’s much easier to meet ILR kids so obviously you’ll have more ILR friends than any others. That slowly changes as you meet more people at parties, meals, activities, through other friends and such. You pick whoever you want so I don’t think it’s a problem…I mean who cares what major your friends are lol (unless they are AAP or premed cuz then you never see them or they study too much haha)</p>

[chockaholic101]

<p>Is prelaw within the ILR school, or is that a separate pre-professional track?</p>

[gomestar]

<p>pre-law doesn’t exist anywhere in Cornell.</p>

[chockaholic101]

<p>Oh. Well. That definitely answers my question.</p>

[chockaholic101]

<p>But in the multicultural program application, it asked if our career track was pre-law. Hmm…maybe a mistake? A general Ivy League questionnaire?</p>

[gomestar]

<p>there’s no pre-law track or anything … they likely just want to know if you’re interested in law school as a future possibility.</p>

[Tahoe]

<p>There is pre-law advising, but pre-law is not a major.
<a href=“http://www.career.cornell.edu/law/advising.html[/url]”>http://www.career.cornell.edu/law/advising.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[nagromis]

<p>This document could be of interest to any undergrads considering law - not just Cornell students.<br>
<a href=“http://www.career.cornell.edu/downloads/2007legal_calendarKg.pdf[/url]”>http://www.career.cornell.edu/downloads/2007legal_calendarKg.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[nagromis]

<p>From the above referenced document - this page (p.19) is very helpful.</p>

<p>

Legal Career Checklist</p>

<p>Freshman and Sophomore Years </p>

<ul>
<li>Select a major in a field that both interests you and allows you to excel academically. </li>
<li>Begin to form relationships with professors, lecturers, and TAs so that they will know your
work well enough to serve as recommenders in the future. </li>
<li>Complete a Career Interest Profile at career.cornell.edu to learn about law-related
opportunities. </li>
<li>Explore your career interests by seeking summer jobs or internships. </li>
</ul>

<p>Junior Year
-Meet with a prelaw advisor to assess your academic, extracurricular, and work experiences
and to discuss the application process.

• Begin preparing for the LSAT; if you are ready, register for the June administration.
• Secure a summer job or internship, if possible, in a law-related field.
• Research law schools and compile a list of tentative schools. </p>

<p>Senior Year (or Year Before Entering Law School)

• Decide whether to use the Law School Admission Council’s electronic applications to apply, or
  or visit schools’ websites to apply or request catalogs and application materials.
  -Register for the Law School Data Assembly Service (LSDAS). Have transcripts from all
  undergraduate institutions you have attended sent to the LSDAS after verifying their accuracy.
• Make sure your LSDAS report is correct.
• Ask potential recommendation writers if they would be willing to write letters on your behalf.
  Provide them with the LSDAS recommendation forms or the schools’ forms and sufficient
  information for detailed letters.
• Make arrangements to have dean’s certifications sent to schools which require them.
• Take the LSAT on September 29 if you did not take the test in June.
• Attend Law School Day on October 2 and programs and workshops on the application
  process.
• Begin drafting and revising your personal statement.
• Meet with a prelaw advisor who will help you assess the strength of your application in
  relation to schools you are considering. Request a critique of your personal statement draft.
• Complete applications by early November.
• Take the LSAT on December 1 if you did not take it previously or are retaking the test.
• Check with schools to make sure your files are complete.
• Complete the FAFSA and other need analysis forms such as Need Access as well as any
  institutional financial aid applications as soon after January 1 as possible.
• Write a follow-up letter to schools to update your application and express your continued
  strong interest in the school.
• Have financial aid transcripts sent from Cornell to all schools to which you are applying.
• Meet with a prelaw advisor in the spring to assess your options as schools respond to you.
• Take appropriate action on acceptances, wait-list status, and financial aid packages.
• Before leaving campus, have a final transcript sent to the law school you plan to attend
  and/or to any schools still considering your application.

</p>

[marny1]

<p>Isn’t there a Law and Society “concentration” (or something like that)within ILR??</p>

<p>again- I don’t think these “submajors/concentrations” make much of a difference for Law school admission- it seems GPA and LSAT rule.</p>

<p>and to the OP’s earlier question- I think my d’s longest and strongest friendships developed with the kids from her freshman dorm and not from her ILR classes. Kids do not seem to segregate themselves by colleges (at least in my kids situation)</p>

[Figgy]

<p>MANY people within ILR are looking to go into law so you would definitely feel at home in ILR if u r pre-law.</p>

[cJ1212]

<p>can anybody confirm that the ACT range is 26-31 for ilr?</p>

[laptop19]

<p>whats the sat range?</p>