<p>Figgy, are you thinking about going into law too?</p>
<p>there isn't a "law and society" thing in the ILR school, the only thing really law related is the department of labor law. Still, it's mostly the study of the history of labor law at the undergrad level, I would put an emphasis on these classes if you want to go to law school one day. I think "law and society" may exist somewhere in Cornell, maybe CAS ... not sure though. </p>
<p>"I don't think these "submajors/concentrations" make much of a difference for Law school admission- it seems GPA and LSAT rule"</p>
<p>This is correct.</p>
<p>gomestar- I am almost positive that my kid is taking about 4 to 5 courses where the subject matter is linked and it is considered a "concentration".</p>
<p>whether it was called law and society or something else, I am not sure. And this concentration has nothing to do with the various areas of ilr like organizational behavior, labor economics, International/comparative labor.</p>
<p>she is not doing any concentration through CAS.</p>
<p>ok here's the deal- I just did a search of the cornell website. There is a Law and Society Concentration that is open to ALL cornell students. It is based in CAS but anyone can go for it. It is a 4 course interdisciplinary concentration and it will be noted on your transcript. Again- I don't think it will be much help for Law school- but it couldn't hurt.</p>
<p>If anyone is interested, it's run through the Program on Ethics and Public Life.</p>
<p>right, i just meant it's not through ILR specifically, I've heard of it before though. I just don't want people to think it's a necessary step to get into a good law school.</p>
<p>As the conversation turned to Law school, just wanted you guys to be aware of the Law & Society concentration and that's why I mentioned it. I don't think anyone believes it is going to be a factor in Law school admission- but it will show an "interest" in the Law and its effect on society.</p>
<p>Maybe it could be a basis for a good "heartfelt" Personal Statement for the applications. I'm getting real cynical about Law School admissions- It seems to be ALL LSAT and GPA.</p>
<p>No I'm interested in business but have friends going into law</p>
<p>I know <em>most</em> ILRs go into law, but is there something like a pre-business equivalent in Cornell too? Or do you just take outside classes in AEM etc. through free credits if you're in ILR and want to go into business?</p>
<p>Figgy: Me too! What part of business are you thinking about?</p>
<p>ILR is business...but just with a mix of law and humanities. If u were set on taking more classes in business then u could easily go for it.</p>
<p>Just to help people out here is the link for concentrations <a href="http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/studentservices/curriculum/concentrations.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/studentservices/curriculum/concentrations.html</a></p>
<p>most ILR students actually go into the work force, usually business stuff. About 23% went into law school last time around. </p>
<p>ILR is mostly business, not law.</p>
<p>Yup. I'm just saying lots of people are interested in law at the stage I'm in (underclassman). In a survey in HR of wat everyone wanted to do after college the vast majority answered law. So I'm just letting people know that if ur interested in ILR and law then u won't be alone here.</p>
<p>Gomestar, not to be picky, but do many eventually go on to graduate school (I know law school seems very popular), but down the road, like MBA? </p>
<p>Figgy, I've been meaning to ask you, how are classes?!? How about ILR so far? Haha, all I know is that you sound very happy to be there...</p>
<p>yes, a good number do right out of undergrad. After a few years, numbers are no longer kept ... this is unfortunate because most MBA's have worked for a good number of years before returning to school for grad school. They're not counted in the stats.</p>
<p>A handful of grads go into doctoral programs as well. I know 07 grads who went straight into PhD programs at UPenn, Princeton, and MIT.</p>
<p>I'm loving it here. The classes are harder than anything I've ever done (I was at an uncompetitive high school) but I'm meeting the challenge head on and will hopefully do great. ILR is even better than I expected. They are successfully combining things like pysch, sociology, history, and such into business to make it more interesting. I also love being in this environment. Everyone is super smart and motivated yet many are normal people (especially in ILR). I feel like I can hang out, party, and have fun with someone and then have an intense intellectual debate with them at another moment. There are also an insane amount of international students here, which is really exciting. I'm learning about a ton of different countries and cultures. I'm also in a whole lot of clubs so those are really exciting. It's so nice out here too...the gorges and the hills are breath taking. If u ever feel that u are getting really stressed at ur other school just remember that if u do well ull end up here and for me it was ALL worth it. This place is amazing and I'm extremely proud to be a student here!</p>
<p>I was looking at the graduate report, and it does not seem like kids get into very impressive MBA programs out of ILR, but they do get into good law schools. Do ILR kids ever get into Harvard Business etc.? Do you think that if a poll was taken like 5 years after graduation there would be more?</p>
<p>(Gomestar, correct me if I'm wrong), usually MBA applicants have at least about 4-5 years of relevant work experience prior to applying and getting accepted into an MBA program; Cornell wouldn't know who got into X school five years later. This is different for law schools, where most go directly after graduating, in which ILR would be like the perfect high-quality feeder.</p>
<p>it also depends on where students go for their MBA (i'm sure many could get into less competitive MBA programs right after undergrad). however, i was told by an ILR professor (if it means anything) that the top MBA programs are beginning to change the unofficial "rule" and accept more students right after undergrad--that is if these students are worthy, of course.</p>
<p>diehldun is right, the survey only sees MBA students that go immediately after they graduate w/ the undergrad degree. You can be assured that the placement into top MBA programs is significantly different with students that have 5 years of experience under their belt and the ILR degree. </p>
<p>some MBA programs may be accepting more students right out of the undergrad program, but competition is stiff at the top levels and you can be sure they prefer the Goldman Sachs/McKinsey/BCG/Microsoft alums to the zero experience students.</p>
<p>Gomestar, do goldman Sachs/Mckinsey/BCG/Microsoft all recruit at ILR?</p>
<p>Correct me if I'm wrong but it was either at Harvard Business school or Harvard Law school that the Valedictorian several years ago was an ILR grad. I remember reading that a while ago</p>