ILR vs CAS?

<p>Hi everyone!
My goal is to be an economics major and to eventually go to law school, and I'm really interested in Cornell ILR and CAS, but my gpa will be around a 3.9/4.0 by senior year (since I took 5 aps junior year and will take 5 senior year), which is somewhat low.
I was thinking about EDing ILR over CAS because ILR is easier(?).
Is CAS (economics major) extremely hard? Should I prioritize ILR over CAS or the other way around? Haha I'm not really sure.
If there are any ILR/former ILR students who feel comfortable sharing their high school stats, that would be amazing :)
Just to compare a little!
Thank you so much!!</p>

<p>If you’re interested in a major in CAS then apply directly to CAS. The worst thing you could do is justify your school application based on individual school selectivity – and doing so might ironically hurt your chances.</p>

<p>CAS economics is not an extremely difficult major at all.</p>

<p>Thank you very much, but I meant is it harder to get into because cas has the most applicants, and an economics major is the most popular major I think…
It’s all very nerve-wracking :(</p>

<p>It doesn’t matter what major you apply to for CAS. Your chances are the same whether you want to be an English major or a Physics major. If your goal is law school, ILR may be better because it’s a lot easier to get A’s in ILR courses than Econ courses. Most Econ courses have median grades of B/B+'s and those grades are largely determined by curves. Your best bet at being at the top end of the curve is being very comfortable with math for Econ. That said, the major itself isn’t all that intensive. The amount of material to learn/study for any course is not that great, but the exams can be difficult because professors won’t make applying that knowledge easy.</p>

<p>Anyway, I’d take a closer look at the ILR curriculum. ILR is great prep for law school and it’s much easier to get that high GPA law schools look for. There’s also a decent amount of Econ to learn in ILR, even if it’s less rigorous than the Econ major. Keep in mind that law school admissions is a lot simpler: high GPA + high LSAT = admission.</p>

<p>Wow thank you so much! Let’s say I did get lucky enough to go to ILR…would I be able to possibly go to business school if I wanted to? Or is ILR more human resources and law and not enough business? Just a random question</p>

<p>And you know how you can pick two schools in Cornell you want to go to? Well if I applied ED and put cas then ILR but was rejected from cas and accepted to ILR…would I get accepted early or put into the regular applicant pool?
Haha sorry for all the questions…thanks!!</p>

<p>I meant would I be considered early decision or regular decision for my second choice school if i was rejected from my first choice school haha</p>

<p>I would think that they would defer before rejecting if you were strong enough for ILR but not CAS in ED.</p>

<p>Lots of ILR grads go to Business school from what I’ve heard. If you think about it, it’s not like Econ is really preparing you any better for business than ILR, which has business law and stuff.</p>

<p>Ah I see thanks! I got a pamphlet from Cornell ILR a while ago, and it had lists of law schools attended, but i didnt remember seeing any business schools attended…not entirely sure though…
Anyways thanks everyone :)</p>

<p>You could also look at the Policy Analysis and Management major in the College of Human Ecology at Cornell. It is a method of studying business, but though a much more public/legal approach than the other schools (Dyson being applied practices such as accounting, CAS econ being… econ, and ILR being management). </p>

<p>PAM is an easily overlooked major, however it has a great turn out for graduate and especially law schools (but what at Cornell doesn’t).</p>

<p>^^
We’d pretty much be represented at virtually every top business school, although of course not everyone gets into one.</p>

<p>I’ll second PAM as a possible “fit” major. I’d carefully look at Econ, ILR, and PAM courses and see what interests you the most. Unfortunately you’re interested in law school which is very competitive and you really will want to maximize your GPA. Econ is not the best route for GPA maximization. PAM and ILR are much easier to get A’s in. As for business, PAM is probably more relevant than ILR, but if you end up wanting to do business school, you’d probably want to take AEM classes, no matter if you were in ILR, PAM, or even Econ. Keep in mind, Econ courses are NOT business courses and they teach completely different things.</p>

<p>wow thank you so much!! I will definitely look into PAM as well now</p>

<p>College of Human Ecology requires a subject test in either math I or math II…I haven’t even started studying yet, and math really isn’t my strong suit :frowning:
And ILR requirements are not as much as the other schools…is there a reason for that?</p>

<p>and could someone possibly tell me admissions stats…che vs ilr and which is easier?
I know it may seem stupid to ask, but I am just curious.
Thank you once again!</p>

<p>Also, math is not my strong suit.
I know that on average people score higher on math II than on math I…but I’m assuming that this is the case because those who are stronger at math take math II?
For someone like me who is not good at math but wants to get into the college of human ec, should I take math I or math II? Sorry for all the questions!</p>

<p>Admission Stats, as requested. 2011 ILR: 22.7% of males & 25.5% of females accepted. 2010 ILR: 27.1% M & 33.0% F. </p>

<p>2011 Hum Ec: 30.5% M & 32.7% F. 2010 Hum Ec: 27.1% M & 33.0% F.</p>

<p>SAT scores of students who enrolled Fall 2011. ILR 25th/75th CR 630/740, Math 640/730. Hum Ec 25th/75th CR 630/730, Math 680/760.</p>

<p>Wow thank you! I notice that Human Ec is slightly “easier”
Do you know anything about the Math I and II Subject tests?
If I am not good at math, which test would I be more likely to score higher in?
Thank you very much!</p>

<p>For someone who will eventually go to Law School and would want to major in History, would Cornell ILR or CAS be more relevant?</p>

<p>The History major is in CAS. The ILR curriculum has a labor history component. I think there is a enough flexibility in ILR to allow you to take a fair number of History classes. Many ILR students are pre-law so that may be useful. I’d look at a sample of courses you could take with either major and see what interests you most.</p>

<p>Thanks Mikey, so basically, Cornell ILR only offers a Bachelor of Science in Industrial and Labor Relations? Do you know if I’d get to minor in History? I’m interested in both schools, and the fact that Cornell ILR is a great school for pre-laws intrigues me the most. But I’m not sure whether I’d like its Industry and Labor courses, I’m just not sure what its all about.</p>