Ilr

<p>Hey, I realize ILR kids get into law school...but how do they do at top tier law schools? Harvard, Mich, etc? Is ILR viewed as like trade school or is it respected by grad schools? Again, I realize ILR kids get into law school at a high rate, but do they get into top tier law schools or do they have to settle for less while arts and sciences kids go to top law schools?</p>

<p>It is not regarded as a "trade school". Earning a high GPA and high LSATs will help you get into law school (of course, outside work, extra- curricular activities etc - are needed as well).</p>

<p>now my mind is getting fuzzy but a few years ago the valedictorian of Harvard Law or Harvard Business was an ILRie...ugh can't remember which. But if u get high gpa and high lsats u can really have the chance to get in anywhere.</p>

<p>would you have a better chance with the same gpa and same lsats coming out of arts and sciences or ILR?</p>

<p>not an easy question to answer as the same gpa doesn't necessarily mean the same/similar courses, etc. but say, hypothetically, if an ILR graduate and a CAS graduate both had the same gpa taking nearly identical courses, and managed to pull off identical lsats: in this case, i think it would come down to essays, recommendations, extracurricular activities, work experience, etc.</p>

<p>alright, I am just posting this because I have heard that ilr grads do not do well when it comes to elite law or business schools and that it does not get any respect.</p>

<p>"I have heard that ILR grads do not do well... does not get any respect."</p>

<p>And where did you hear all this from?</p>

<p>it was in another thread on this forum...and some person insisted that Ilr grads do well in percentage getting into law and b schools, but that do not get into elite grad schools because they do not have a liberal arts education and have basically attended a trade school.</p>

<p>I've never heard that</p>

<p>just answer the question: do ilr kids get into harvard etc?</p>

<p>I'll let you know after I take the LSATs...I don't think ILR is a hinderance. If anything, it's probably a good thing, since it prepares you pretty well as a "prelaw" program (depending on what upper level class you take).</p>

<p>sure ilr students get into harvard. in fact, my ilr colloquium professor told us that a few years back he wrote letters of recommendations to harvard law school for 12 of his students: 11 were accepted!</p>

<p>It's not like ILR is considered a "cakewalk" to law schools. Honestly, some kids in CAS take some really fun and wacky courses that might not look "challenging" on transcript too! I know students that attended both ILR and CAS and when they applied to Law Schools the ones with the higher stats and well rounded apps got into the better schools regardless.</p>

<p>...hm...I'm contemplating applying to ILR next year but I'm afraid I wont get in b/c of my 690 CR score...I want to go to law school but now that Tahoe puts it like that I may just apply to the CAS...</p>

<p>I have no idea how you interpreted Tahoe's comments to mean that you should apply to CAS.</p>

<p>^^Tahoe is saying that by being an ILR does not give you an advantage in law school admissions over CAS</p>

<p>The bigger question is--
is a 165 LSAT or a<br>
170 LSAT------- or a
175 LSAT or whatever LSAT score- be interpreted for Law school admission any differently if you are a UG from Cornell ILR- CAS- Harvard or Penn State. And I do not think anyone on these boards can give you a definitive answer. </p>

<p>You are the one who is going to take the LSAT and get a particular score.
If you can score within the top 1% on the LSAT and get a 172 or higher, you willl most probably get into a top 6 law school. Just be very aware that 99% score below 172. So it is YOUR responsibility to do as well in your UG studies and LSAT's as you possibly can if your aim is to get into a top law school</p>

<p>My kid is ILR and got top 5% in the LSAT's (167). She will be applying to law school in the next year of two.
Will she get into HYS??-- Probably not. But she has a shot at T-14 and should most probably get into a top 20- 25 based on her LSAT's and GPA.</p>

<p>but if she were a Cornell UG in CAS, her results in law school admission would most probably be the same as she will be judged on that LSAT score and her GPA.</p>

<p>"^^Tahoe is saying that by being an ILR does not give you an advantage in law school admissions over CAS"</p>

<p>Well, yes. That's obvious to me. We've been saying all along that law school admissions is dependent on your own individual record (GPA, LSAT, coursework, etc.) and not on whether you're in CAS or ILR. Your LSAT score will probably be the most important factor in admissions to law school. If you understand what the LSAT is trying to test, you would know that a bio major probably has as good a chance at scoring well as a government major in CAS or a ILR student.</p>

<p>167 is 95th percentile?? my life is going to suck from next week until July.</p>

<p>in the likely event of getting rejected from YLS or HLS, I guarantee you that 99.9% of this is due to YOU and your qualifications (or lack there of) ... not the fact that you enrolled in ILR over CAS</p>