<p>(kudos if understand the humor in the title)
CHANCES AT AN IVY??</p>
<p>Black Female
average high school in GA
GPA: 90.12/100
SAT: CR 580
M 560
W 520 E:8 (will retake. im aiming for a 2000+, im being realistic)
AP: World History - 3
US History and Psychology - projected 5 and 4 (anyone who took the tests will understand)
Senior year im taking Eng.Lit, Comp.Gov, US Gov, Euro</p>
<p>EC's
Student Body President (i ran unopposed, lol)
Captain of the Debate Team (NFL debate and Model UN)
Executive Producer of school news show
Academic Team member
Over 200+ volunteer hours with mentally disabled children
Over 200+ volunteer hours at church (childrens ministry and media)</p>
<p>Awards
Tons of leadership awards/programs going back to 6th grade ( governors honors, girls state, the like)
a sufficent amount of debate and Model UN awards
academic department honors, generic stuff, i havent cured cancer or anything.</p>
<p>Hook
Well, im black....and im a girl. im the co-president of a non profit organization that connects students with jobs/internships in the community, i like to think it's pretty unique. i also moved to the US at 4 from africa and will be applying as a resident. financial aid is not a major issue.</p>
<p>Major: International Relations, Broadcast Journalism, or Law (or combination somehow ie. major in IR and minor in BJ.</p>
<p>so i know my SAT scores stink and im devoting every moment to adjusting that part of my resume. what do you think my chances are? any adivice on how to improve them?</p>
<p>is it required for ALL of them? i thought th ACT was an option, which i am planning to do. maybe i need to research more, hmm. my hearts not set on an ivy, im just wondering if i even have a chance. im content with a state school than transfering. uga :)</p>
<p>Nope. No. No way. If you're a middle class or upper middle class black girl, they've got LOADS of more qualified applicants with the same background.</p>
<p>I won't go so far as to say no way, but you are definitely a long shot...to be frank, there will be many minority applicants who have higher scores AND who come from rougher backgrounds. It's very important for you to get your scores at least into the mid 600's, in my opinion. That said, your extras are very good and will help balance out less impressive test scores, but for a realistic shot at the Ivies, definitely work on those scores--btw, some schools (like Princeton) do require the SAT II's for everyone, so you need to check that out for the schools that you are thinking of applying to.</p>
<p>My daughter is also a young black woman applying to somes. The ivy school reject about 75% of URM candidates today. While you will get some points if you are from rural Georgia and had limited opportunities, your SAT scores do need to be much closer to the average scores at the schools.</p>
<p>why is it that black and hispanic CCers with mediocre scores always aim so ridiculously high? i presume it's because of uninformed counselors and parents who believe that being an URM is an ULTRA boost. while it is a good bonus, it doesn't help when your SATs are in the 1600s</p>
<p>There are whites and asians who aim ridiculously high with low scores as well, but that's beside the point.
There's really no harm in applying to long shots; it's better than having regrets about not doing so later.</p>
<p>Personally, I know several URMs (hispanic) who got into at least berkeley with 1600 SATs but strong ECs.</p>
<p>How does that make Firefox racist?? He does have a point; people tend to overestimate the benefits of being an URM. And honestly, from all your other posts, rebokclassicSAT, i can only conclude that you are indeed a troll. In most of your posts, you're simply picking a fight.</p>
<p>Like advantageous said, I think if you can score in the mid-600's on all three sections you will have a fighting chance. Scores in the mid-600's are significantly above the average SAT's for blacks. (the average is in the early to mid 400's according to collegeboard) So though having a 650 on all sections is low for whites and Asians applying to top 20 schools, being a URM with that same score is above average. There are different standards because of the disparity in the average scores.
Most importantly SAT's are not everything!! the application is a holistic process.</p>
<p>Do you guys believe that URM's really should have advantages in college admissions? I am not a racist or anything, but ironically I find it a bit racial that colleges are judging applicants on their race rather than solely on their academic merits; often times it seems like they are babying the URMs. Should URM's have a different set of standards just because by statistics their minority tends to achieve less? I wholeheartedly support and admire African Americans and Hispanics who rise up against challenges and achieve outstanding excellence, but their achievements should be on par with others that are accepted.</p>
<p>Maybe it's that I am Asian-American, and I am a bit bitter at how every Asian has a 2200+ SAT, 4.6 GPA, 750+ SAT subjects, and hours of EC's. But as a result, I aim lower and my top choice is not in any top 20 school. I agree that people should be sympathized because of social conditions beyond their control, but let me tell you, I know of many Asians that have disadvantages but instead of admitting defeat they exert more effort. There are some that came to the U.S. at 8 or 10 and make up for it by trying a lot harder. </p>
<p>werunthis08, you're stats and EC's are admirable and from your post it is clear that you want to make a bright future for yourself. But I think that you see your race and gender as an excuse for your setbacks, and in a way that is racist and sexist. And the title of this thread makes you seem very pretentious and arrogant, and I would not mention "black, beautiful, sing well, and rich" in any essay and using those words. If you are indeed rich, then you should not have any major disadvantages that many African Americans have to face. You also must consider that the IVY schools are very competitive when one is accepted, and you must speculate if you can handle it. I wish you the best of luck, but in my opinion, if you do get into an Ivy league school with your stats as of now, the system is unfair.</p>
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<li><p>I love that song</p></li>
<li><p>Your chances at ivies are slim. your gpa is a little low and so are your test scores... your ecs are your saving grace, but even then, i don't know if they are enough to get you in.</p></li>
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<p>i say you should still apply though, you never know what'll happen!!!</p>
<p>Your chances are slim at this point; ethnicity will not compensate for academic mediocrity. </p>
<p>Okay, now that we've dispelled this notion that you can get into an ivy on race alone, I suggest you study assiduously for the SAT reasoning test and SAT subject tests and try to score really well on them (2100+ for reasoning; 750+ for subjects).</p>
<p>Your resume really isn't as "mediocre" as people are making it seem.</p>
<p>Really, it's the SAT score that's the problem. 2000+ probably isn't quite good enough for the Ivies; I'd recommend prepping really hard for it and shooting for 2200+. And of course you need to get a few subject test scores in, preferably 700+ on each.</p>