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Sound like you are talking about Dartmouth.
Stanford’s name.<br>
You really can’t go wrong with either school.</p>
<p>Well, you’re stuck between an Ivy and Stanford. And not just any Ivy but Dartmouth, at that. As Professor101 stated, you really can’t go wrong with either school. Try to figure out which environment would be better for you. They’re at entirely different locations. Also, if finance is a concern, you’ll want to look into that as well.</p>
<p>As all adcoms say, the best way to decide would be to go with your gut feeling. You don’t have much time. Find out all you can know about either school, then just go where you feel more compelled to enroll</p>
<p>“Sound like you are talking about Dartmouth.”</p>
<p>Wait, what? Stanford’s econ is ranked in the top 3 or so, and Dartmouth isn’t even on the map. Stanford’s linguistics department is ranked 1 or 2 (Dartmouth isn’t on the map there, either). Stanford’s polisci department is top 5. Dartmouth? Nowhere to be seen.</p>
<p>Stanford also has one of the strongest language programs–not only does it offer all the common languages that schools typically offer, but it has the Special Language Program that offers many more obscure languages. Stanford languages are known to be rigorous.</p>
<p><a href=“https://www.stanford.edu/dept/lc/language/courses/index.html[/url]”>https://www.stanford.edu/dept/lc/language/courses/index.html</a>
[Special</a> Language Program: Home](<a href=“http://www.stanford.edu/dept/SLP/index.html]Special”>http://www.stanford.edu/dept/SLP/index.html)</p>
<p>Phantasmagoric, I think you are correct about econ, but Dartmouth’s language program is considered fabulous (especially french, but other languages, too.)</p>
<p>fuzzy,
Stanford is in California just south of San Francisco. Your lifestyle will be no problem there. Large community.</p>
<p>Showbear, I understand your predicament, but know that there are many kids still on the extended waitlist who know EXACTLY that Stanford is the place for them. Sorry if that sounds a bit catty, but I think someone had to say it. </p>
<p>To help you speed up your choice, you could look at the individual majors that you’re looking at in detail on each school’s website. The econ departments may be quite different in terms of their focus and how the major is taught.</p>
<p>Along with contemplating everyone’s advice, I’m going to make a list of pros and cons and see where it leads me.</p>
<p>Bluebubbles- I wish I were lucky enough to know exactlywhere I want to go between the two; I am however lucky enough to have the opportunity to choose between the two. I’m not treating my waitlist admission as trite; I was ecstatic when I found out. I’m just not comfortable with rejecting a school just because I’m not EXACTLY sure about the other one. Congrats on getting in btw.</p>
<p>Both are amazing but very different. My son looked at Stanford and loved it but decided that he was going to save it for grad school. He did not apply for undergrad as he wanted a smaller more undergrad focused environment. He will be attending Dartmouth. In the end you need to decide what you want not what a bunch of people on the board tell you to do.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>No worries, showbear, I completely understand, I was in your situation too! What helped me a lot was talking to actual Stanford students. Look at the facebook groups (what I did) or check the Stanford and Dartmouth websites to see if they offer any kind of talk-to-student things. Good luck with your decision!</p>
<p>bringing it back a few posts, I think the 96% acceptance rate is quite dubious. My sister went to Yale, studied MB&B there, got around a 3.5 and had a really hard time getting into med school. She did say the majority of her pre-med classmates studied fluff subjects and managed very high GPAs. Their common strategy was to take orgo chem I and II during summer session at a local community college or state school non-flagship back home. Maybe this type of outsmarting the AMCAS system is common at Yale, I’m not sure. I met a bunch of her friends over the years in biochemistry (impressive) as well as other premeds in anthro, poli sci and misc. soft subjects (definitely unimpressive)… 75% seems to be about right for students who study the hard sciences.</p>
<p>^^ everything you state about premed at Yale is unfounded speculation. No one I know takes orgo over the summer at other schools; that’s a red flag for med school admissions officers and would very well HURT pre med applicants, even if they get the A. Also, most premeds at Yale are MCDB majors (as in, greater than 50%). The next highest proportion of premeds are MB&B majors (about 30%, most MB&B majors are premed). Very few people are majoring in fluff areas such as anthro or poli sci. </p>
<p>And what makes you think that the distribution of majors varies from other schools? If you think people at Yale major in fluff, do you think Stanford premeds don’t do the same? There aren’t any under-handing premed strategies at Yale that aren’t employed everywhere else. Everyone needs to stop judging Yale’s success with premeds (and fabricating pitiful justifications for the 94-96% premed success rate). It is what it is. Get over yourselves.</p>
<p>Dartmouth is a joke compared to first tier schools. Are you kidding me?</p>
<p>What a charming comment, Kakashi. I wonder where your diplomacy and tact will take you.</p>
<p>^hahahaha</p>
<p>@kashaki- now, why would you say that? Dartmouth is a very good institution and undeniably one of the finest in the world. To say that it’s a “Joke” is foolish. You could’ve perhaps said that if we were comparing a small university in some third-world country to Stanford, but not a genuinely solid school like Dartmouth!</p>
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The joke goes like this:</p>
<p>John: "Mary, where do you go to school?</p>
<p>Mary:“Dartmouth College.”</p>
<p>John:“It is only a COLLEGE? Well, I guess that’s better than mine. Mine is a junior university.”</p>
<p>Mary:"Which one?</p>
<p>John:“Leland Stanford Junior Univeristy.”</p>
<p>Mary: “Someone on CC said that’s joke.”</p>
<p>John:“No, it’s a real university.”</p>
<p>Mary:“I see.”</p>
<p>Mary:“Why they called it a junior university? Why people go there when they have a choice to go to great universities like Yale?”</p>
<p>John;" Well, it is only junior to Harvard. What other universities?"</p>
<p>@fuzzybear
unless Stanford comes through with great $, looks like Reed would be a good fit. Stanford area housing will be pricier than Portland. Reed is very dog friendly and Portland will have plenty to offer you.
emeraldkitty on this board has lots of Reed info, if you choose to go that route.</p>
<p>Dartmouth is not a joke. Excellent education; smart students with roughly the same scores and GPA’s as STanford. They are different-but both operate on quarter systems.</p>
<p>Re-posting the joke. Sorry Professor101, I have to complete what you did not finish. :)</p>
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<p>John: "Mary, where do you go to school?</p>
<p>Mary: “Dartmouth College.”</p>
<p>John: “It is only a COLLEGE? Well, I guess that’s better than mine. Mine is a junior university.”</p>
<p>Mary: "Which one?”</p>
<p>John: “Leland Stanford Junior University.”</p>
<p>Mary: “Someone on CC said that’s joke.”</p>
<p>John: “No, it’s a real university.”</p>
<p>Mary: “I see. Why do they call it a junior university? Why do people go there when they have choices to go to great universities like Yale?”</p>
<p>John;" Well, it is only junior to Harvard. What other universities?"</p>
<p>Mary: "Do you mean that Harvard is better?”</p>
<p>John: “Without loss of generality, let S=Stanford, and H=Harvard, then, H=(old) Oxbridge, S=(new) Harvard, S is more structurally stable like the tree, while H is more like tree leaves, and we can prove that S >> H.”</p>
<p>Mary: "That sounds so complicated.”</p>
<p>John: “Well, it could be just some undergraduate projects to prove this at Stanford, but it is a Ph.D. thesis topic for Harvard students.” </p>
<p>Mary: “What about Dartmouth?”</p>
<p>John: “Right, let S=Stanford, and D=Dartmouth, then… what was the question again?”</p>
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<p>National academy of science members:
Stanford (131) >> Yale (58) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dartmouth (1)
[National</a> Academy of Sciences:](<a href=“http://www.nasonline.org/site/Dir?sid=1011&view=basic&pg=srch]National”>http://www.nasonline.org/site/Dir?sid=1011&view=basic&pg=srch)</p>
<p>National academy of engineering members:
Stanford (90) >>>> Yale (7) > Dartmouth (3)
[Members</a> By Parent Institution](<a href=“http://www.nae.edu/nae/naepub.nsf/members%20by%20parent%20institutions?OpenView&Start=30]Members”>http://www.nae.edu/nae/naepub.nsf/members%20by%20parent%20institutions?OpenView&Start=30)</p>
<p>Institute of medicine:
Stanford (56)>Yale (41)>>Dartmouth (8)
[Membership</a> Directory - Institute of Medicine](<a href=“http://www.iom.edu/CMS/2951/16476.aspx?ps=10&sb=LastName&sd=ASC&cp=2&filterby=D&browseby=Institution&scroll=1#ResultScroll1]Membership”>http://www.iom.edu/CMS/2951/16476.aspx?ps=10&sb=LastName&sd=ASC&cp=2&filterby=D&browseby=Institution&scroll=1#ResultScroll1)</p>
<p>Eventhough Yale and Dartmouth belong to IVY league, Stanford is clearly better than both of them, in terms of faculty reputation.</p>