Impeach Bush Now!

<p>Wasn't it a British colony till a few years ago when it was given back to the Chinese? Also, Russia is a European country. It may have lots of land in Asia, but no one lives there. The majority of people live in the west.</p>

<p>afruff, I hope you realize that with over a billion people it is near impossible to have everyone up to western standards of living. India is doing well for a developing country. The only solutions would be to either give us enough money to support everyone or kill half the people to control the population. I prefer the former.</p>

<p>I don't care how India is doing it is really not my point. My point is how people like Abhi can come off with that "holier-than-thou" attitude.</p>

<p>"I agree, kill whatever and whoever you want, just don't bother me."</p>

<p>Real great morals there. Indifference is just as bad as killing the people yourself.</p>

<p>"'And you people are afraid of Iran who has neither the technology, nor any declared desire for nuclear weapons.</p>

<p>Sentences don't start with 'and' and Ahmaimabastardjad has declared several times to enhance his existing nuclear program(might be ********) and with it, 'Wipe Israel off the map'.'"</p>

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<li><p>Sentences can start with "And" in informal writing. Have you ever read any good books?</p></li>
<li><p>Yeah, existing nuclear program=WMDs. Real great detective work there bud. My dad works in a nuclear power plant (engineer) and he knows quite a bit more than you or me on this issue. </p></li>
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<p>Iran has about 3000 centrifuges for enriching Uranium for energy use. Suppose they even wanted to make weapons, then it would take them decades with their technology to separate enough of the radioactive isotopes to make a nuke.</p>

<p>Not to mention that Iran's nuclear waste contains no traces of materials from production of weapons-grade uranium. This was in the news a while ago. Search some.</p>

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<li><p>Real mature portmanteau there. Very clever.</p></li>
<li><p>Wipe Israel off the map is a mistranslation of Ahmadinejad's speech. Don't believe me. Search google or check out this link: <a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/260107offthemap.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/260107offthemap.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li>
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<p>People like you are targets of this propaganda.</p>

<p>"Caste system in india .....(getting more equal.. look at IIT admissions.)"</p>

<p>Yes, but the fact that they are still not equal is a violation of their rights. If the classes are so equal, then why is the system still here today?</p>

<p>Hmm, learnt some trivia today! Apparently, Hong Kong was a British Crown Colony until 1997, and is now a "Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China". Interesting.</p>

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UAE has much better conditions than India. Your original statement is wrong since that is not most of Asia. Here's a list of countries with better HR situations than India.

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UAE has better conditions. Which conditions? Are you trying to confuse HR with living conditions?
Do you have any proof to back these ranking or are these made by you?</p>

<p>[url=<a href="http://www.worldaudit.org/civillibs.htm%5DHere's%5B/url"&gt;http://www.worldaudit.org/civillibs.htm]Here's[/url&lt;/a&gt;] Civil liberties ranking by world audit. India's score of 3 is better than all ASEAN countries(Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand) and even Russia. In fact India has better score then every country in your list but Japan and South Korea(:D)).</p>

<p>[url=<a href="http://www.worldaudit.org/democracy.htm%5DHere's%5B/url"&gt;http://www.worldaudit.org/democracy.htm]Here's[/url&lt;/a&gt;] Democracy ranking by World audit forum. India's rank of 47 is better then all ASEAN countries and than all countries in Arab league(scroll down to bottom of the page.)</p>

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Iran has about 3000 centrifuges for enriching Uranium for energy use. Suppose they even wanted to make weapons, then it would take them decades with their technology to separate enough of the radioactive isotopes to make a nuke.

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Or, they could just ask another Islamic country for N-weapons, like they did for centrifuges(:D)

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Yes, but the fact that they are still not equal is a violation of their rights. If the classes are so equal, then why is the system still here today?

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Caste system isn't wrong, Discrimination on the basis of caste is wrongs. Caste is just a title, until you misuse it. Yes, Discrimination is there in India, but it's magnitude is very less than what you think(civil liberties rankings just prove my case).</p>

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If you believe this nation to be so superior to everybody then why do they have an literacy rate of 61%?
Most Muslim nations have a higher literacy rate save a few African nations.

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India's not superior. It was you, who involved in India in all this.</p>

<p>Definitely, Living conditions in India are worse than most Muslim countries. We are almost equal to Africa in HDI rankings. But, then we confess that and try to improve it. We don't start terrorist camps and dump our unemployed youth in that.</p>

<p>During the last 10 years 140 million people have moved out of poverty line! 120 million people have learn to read and literacy rate has increased to 62% from 52% ten years back! </p>

<p>I was just saying that Muslim nations are autocratic tyrannys and are major Human rights abuser. Can someone contest the validity of that statement? That's obvious. Whenever religion becomes expression of state power, it results in tyranny. A Muslim majority state, turkey, has progressed enormously after Kamal Ataturk dumped religion and established a secular state. </p>

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India also has many arranged marriages whereas from my observances many Muslim nations still give the suitor a choice as to who to marry. Widows are treated badly by the husband's family in India.

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Yeah. But, India's record of Human rights is better than most counties in Asia (As report by American Congress says "India isn't considered as a major abuser of Human rights"). The cases you have mentioned aren't as widespread as you imagine.</p>

<p>Do you even know the countries of Asia (not Asea)? I quickly went through the list and found Mongolia to have a better score than India.</p>

<p>In UAE, there's no fighting or discrimination based on class or race.</p>

<p>A literacy rate of 62% is still very bad. What does this mean? India's education is not nearly as great as many other nations. Education is a basic human right.</p>

<p>"Caste is just a title, until you misuse it."</p>

<p>Then what's the whole point of it?! So low class people don't entirely take all high positions?</p>

<p>"Or, they could just ask another Islamic country for N-weapons, like they did for centrifuges"</p>

<p>You need to learn some Middle East history. The centrifuges were given by Russia. The only Muslim nation with nukes is Pakistan and they are Sunni while Iran is Shia. They would not readily help Iran. Let's see how many more historical inaccuracies you can give before you admit you're wrong.</p>

<p>I get Abhi's point, if Muslims countries sustained the level of democray that India has, then muslim women too would be dancing around in skimpy skirts with their ass and chest half out dancing with an entourage of 30 dancers (similar to a bollywood production). Instead these countries have sacrificed some democracy for their values, and the principle of peace. Abhi I suggest you look up the word Islam. Its quite unfortunate you live right next to a neigboring Islamic country but yet are so uninfomed about the values of this religion, but why blame you, when your media is so biased and unbalanced and victims like you take a sense of foreclosure into any information that is offered than to accept truth.</p>

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Do you even know the countries of Asia (not Asea)? I quickly went through the list and found Mongolia to have a better score than India.

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I said compared to most of Asia. So, India has the 4th best HR situation in Asia and way better than Muslim states(which generally have a score of 5+).

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In UAE, there's no fighting or discrimination based on class or race.

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But still it's HR situation is more worse than India. UAE has no caste system; So the only discrimination there is on the basis of religion(Jews). And there's a tribal Islamic law called sharita in UAE(and pretty much in every Islamic country) according to which adultery amounts to death sentence(lmao(:D)).

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A literacy rate of 62% is still very bad. What does this mean? India's education is not nearly as great as many other nations. Education is a basic human right.

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This means India is a poor, vibrant Democracy with one of the best HR situation in Asia.

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Then what's the whole point of it?! So low class people don't entirely take all high positions?

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Untouchables (not just low caste) have been president and chief justices in India(caste and class are different things, if you don't know). If it could be reasoned that caste</a> imprisons a man in his function, then it could also be reasoned that caste could help make the most tolerant society in this world (at least to other religions). India is the only country in this world where Jews haven't faced any persecution (Jews migrated to India 2500 years ago). Sociologists reason that to the caste system.

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You need to learn some Middle East history. The centrifuges were given by Russia. The only Muslim nation with nukes is Pakistan and they are Sunni while Iran is Shia. They would not readily help Iran.

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What the ****!
What's your Standardize test score?
Iran</a> 'given Pakistan centrifuges'</p>

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Let's see how many more historical inaccuracies you can give before you admit you're wrong.

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This line is just hilarious HaHaHa
<em>dies</em></p>

<p>PS: If you don't have proofs to back your statements, you can gracefully back out(:D)(:D)(:D)(:D)(:D)(:D)</p>

<p>kunfuzed101: Isn't it hilarious that there's not a single member to your member</a> list? Not even you!(:D)(:D)(:D)(:D)</p>

<p><a href="http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/040812.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/040812.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>That link is too old (Sep 2004) and it talks nothing about Russia giving centrifuges to Iran. Russia has only built a reactor and not given out centrifuge design (which were given out by Khan).</p>

<p>Simply admit that you have no proofs to back your statements regarding centrifuges, Miserable HR situation India (compared to Asia and Muslim States), and India's Nuclear program following a public apology to me.</p>

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I get Abhi's point, if Muslims countries sustained the level of democray that India has, then muslim women too would be dancing around in skimpy skirts with their ass and chest half out dancing with an entourage of 30 dancers (similar to a bollywood production). Instead these countries have sacrificed some democracy for their values, and the principle of peace.

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Ok. So democracy is dangerous because it gives women right to do what ever they want. And wearing skirts is bad!
HaHaHa</p>

<p>So, are all Muslims like you?:rolleyes:

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Abhi I suggest you look up the word Islam. Its quite unfortunate you live right next to a neigboring Islamic country but yet are so uninfomed about the values of this religion, but why blame you, when your media is so biased and unbalanced and victims like you take a sense of foreclosure into any information that is offered than to accept truth.

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Biased towards whom? Do you have any evidence of that statement of yours?
I always base my statements on neutral sources so as to be free from such accusations. Nevertheless, I am genuinely interested in seeing some evidence of that statement of yours.</p>

<p>Boring. Can't we all just...get along?</p>

<p>I've read some of the threads on this board and I'm sorry to say this, but you guys don't know crap (I won't spell around the word) from shinola. </p>

<p>If you guys really care that much about our troops, screaming "Impeach Bush" isn't going to do a thing. </p>

<p>The anti-war protesters at my university claiming to care about the troops rioted and threw red paint at a representative's office near our state capitol. It's sad that our soldiers, Airmen, Marines, and Sailors have to witness this crap. These are the people who "support" the troops!?</p>

<p>Stop being so sanctimonious and stop blaming Bush for every damn thing, because the Democrats as of yet, have not provided ANY solutions. They have no visions whatsoever. After we get our troops out, all hell is going to break loose in Iraq. If you honestly believe that there will be peace, you are naive. You guys need to stop quoting news sources and ask the troops who've been there or are there right now and learn from them and get your facts straight. They are the ones who know the real story since they are witnessing it. </p>

<p>That's all I'm going to say, and I'm not going to argue with someone who knows nothing about what's really going on over there and has to quote news sites since I am busy with other things for the next month (i.e studying for finals and writing papers).</p>

<p>I don't know but a lot of troops seem to agree that they will NOT go back if called up again.</p>

<p>Dude, that's what democracy looks like. Get over it.</p>

<p>^ I know a lot of troops that will be more than happy to go back (maybe because they are Marines and they are the first to fight?) and I have talked to plenty of them. </p>

<p>Dude, Bush isn't going to be impeached. Get over it.</p>

<p>Screaming to impeach Bush and yelling "F the troops", vandalizing an office, rioting in the streets blocking traffic, burning an effigy of a soldier, is your idea of a democracy? I would think that people would have more respect for our military, but I guess not. Thank your lucky stars that these troops died so you can enjoy your "democracy" because if you did this in other countries, you would have your throat cut.</p>

<p>I feel bad for the troops that deal with this nonsense and this makes me support them and their cause even more. </p>

<p>You cannot support the troops, but not support their cause and even the soldiers acknowledge this, so why can't you?
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyqk1LsCDBQ%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyqk1LsCDBQ&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Also, wiseguy, since you think you know everything, tell me exactly what plans do the Democrats have after we withdraw our troops (assuming that Bush does not veto the bill)? They offered none.</p>

<p>If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.</p>

<p>Lol Its Gonna Be So Bloody Funny When Bush Is Gone And All You People Are Gonna Regret The Fact That You Called For Him To Leave. Hes The Country's Greatest President Ever, Has Guts To Fight The Terrorists And Has Been A Boon To India..</p>