importance of quality of facilities? really, now...

<p>DS is a trumpet performance major. DD will be majoring in engineering but playing oboe as a non-major.</p>

<p>Re: pianos...I can't speak for NU because I've never been there...BUT at many of the schools we saw, there were less than great pianos in many practice rooms. HOWEVER there were specific practice rooms with wonderful pianos that were clearly designated for use by the piano students first (in other words, you could use the room, but if a piano major came along, you had to leave and find another place). The reality is that top steinway pianos are costly and even at full steinway schools, you may not find the best ones in EVERY space where there is a piano. I agree with the above poster...there are excellent pianos for practice purposes but not every piano is that terrific.</p>

<p>I believe Oberlin has one of the largest collections of Steinways in the world and has a very unique relationship with the manufacturer. The Northwestern music building (the large white one) is absolutely a disgrace. The music dean is desperately trying to get and/or raise the funds to totally replace it and this is a high priority of the university. Knowing how slow this process can be, you're looking at several years before any groundbreaking even takes place.</p>

<p>According to their literature, Oberlin has THE largest collection of Steinways in existence.</p>

<p>NU has been trying to raise funds for a new music building since I graduated back in the 70's.</p>

<p>I am not dissing Northwestern. I got a top notch education there, but I wasn't a music major, and knowing how little funding is directed towards the music school convinces me that it won't be tops on my son's list.</p>

<p>"According to their literature, Oberlin has THE largest collection of Steinways in existence."</p>

<p>Huh. I think Curtis makes the same claim.</p>

<p>I think it depends on how one defines a collection.</p>

<p>Curtis might actually own more Steinways than Oberlin, a school four times its size. They loan out pianos to all keyboard, composition and conducting students, and possibly to some voice majors. Because they have no dorms and only limited practice space, that means their collection is spread throughout apartments and host family homes in and around Philadelphia.</p>

<p>Oberlin, on the other hand, keeps nearly all of its pianos somewhere within the Conservatory building. Maybe they mean that they have the largest single collection in one place.</p>

<p>Nope, I was wrong. Oberlin actually owns more than twice as many Steinways as Curtis. According to an article published in 2003 (<a href="http://www.curtis.edu/pdf/OtonesSteinwayS03.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.curtis.edu/pdf/OtonesSteinwayS03.pdf&lt;/a&gt;), Curtis owned 91 Steinways, "most of them grands." According to a press release issued the same year, Oberlin then had 199 grands (<a href="http://www.oberlin.edu/newserv/03jul/pianoCompFest_release.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.oberlin.edu/newserv/03jul/pianoCompFest_release.html&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/p>

<p>Curtis can probably lay claim to having the highest ratio of Steinways per student, however.</p>

<p>I stand corrected; thanks for the clarification!</p>

<p>I also auditioned at NU in February on piano, planning to major in Music Ed. I also found that the MAB was completely run down. At the time though, that didn't bother me too much. I thought the building was full of character and I didn't really care what the building looked like, as long as what was going on inside of the building was top notch. I expected though, while reading through the NU pamphlets, a very modern building, full of very modern up to date facilties. When I arrived there, I was a little bit shocked, my dad as well.
Most the pianos in the practice rooms are Steinways, yes, which is really nice to say in a pamphlet, but when I practiced on them, they were horrendous. They were twangy, the keys were chipped and too light, some keys were sticky, the whole frame of the piano was so old and falling to pieces. I couldn't play loudly on it without it sounding thin and "bangy" and I could barely play softly because the keys had so little weight and no control. The rooms are barely sound-proof and I could hear the person next to me practicing. I couldn't hear myself. The room itself had barely any light in it, and the room felt slightly like a prison. However, that all being said, I found the building itself rather beautiful. Also, the piano I played on for my audition, was top notch, a gorgeous, flawless Steinway.
To compare though, when I went to my U Toronto audition, the building was modern, had wonderful Yamaha and Steinway grands to pratice on, beautiful large windows (although being afraid of heights, it may have been too much for me), and sound-proof walls. The halls were well lit and I felt like the building and the school was being well taken care of.
Later, when I wasn't accepted to NU and was accepted to U Toronto (where I'm going in the fall), my dad told me how unimpressed he was with the state of NU's building and that even if was accepted to both, he would have preferred me going to U Toronto. He was afraid of telling me his feelings before because I had my heart set on it for so long.
So, I guess to sum up the old vs. new debate, to me, it's fine for the building itself to look a little run down, it adds character. BUT, if the oldness of the building makes the facilities suffer, (such as instrument quality, sound-proof rooms, etc.) it makes the musician suffer. Also, if the oldness makes the musician feel as though he/she is in a prison, or is frustrated by the quality of the facilities, it hinders the growth of the musician, and then the school is not doing its job of providing a musician with top-notch education. And, if the rest of the school has modern facilities (like NU), you have to wonder whether the music program is being neglected.</p>

<p>Facilities are nice, but not really important.</p>

<p>Of course, facilities can be a visual indicator of funding in general.</p>

<p>We just got the current Oberlin flyer last week and they do have over 200 Steinways including one in every practice room and two in every studio, one for professor one for student I would guess.</p>

<p>I like the harp room down in the basement. Library is very impressive as well. Physical buildings didnt impress me but what the heck its about professors anyway.</p>

<p>Oberlin may be an exception, because they do have a reputation of having the most Steinways. But still, when a school says they equip a Steinway in every room, it doesn't always mean it is a good Steinway. Many of them may not be in good condition at all.</p>

<p>I have only heard a small fraction of Oberlin's Steinways, so I can't vouch for all of them. They do have three full-time piano technicians on staff, who regularly work their way through the collection, tuning, voicing and repairing as needed. The few that I have played or heard played there were in very good condition.</p>