In case your choosing between pitzer and oxy...

<p>Just copying a response that was posted on college *******, with a person choosing between pitzer and oxy,
I know both schools have many cross applicants, so i thought this may be useful. </p>

<p>In choosing between Pitzer and Oxy, I wouldn't let the distance from LA be too much of a factor because presumably most undergrad students in a residential campus stay on campus anyway. Pitzer is also not only environmentally focused, it is very strong in all of the social sciences and there are many who major in political studies and IR.</p>

<p>Pitzer has become one of the most selective colleges in America, and shares a campus with two other colleges in that list.</p>

<p>I'm not too sure how Oxy compares.
the dry vs wet campus dichotomy is completely misleading and ridiculous. American University in DC for instance, is technically a "dry" campus but their alcohol usage is relatively similar to most colleges in America.</p>

<p>Stanford, Pomona, and CMC in contrast, are wet campuses and alcohol use is also in the range of the majority of colleges. If anything the open alcohol culture of the 5Cs promote less binge drinking and drug pressure you might find at oxy and other schools.</p>

<p>I saw in the book ‘Insider’s guide to colleges’ that students in Pitzer are generally apathetic, and the school lacks motivation to fulfill its goals. Is this true?</p>

<p>If you want to spend 4 years in this place, you need to come and see the problem for yourself. But if you can’t, then take a look at statistic/ranking of this school in college *******.</p>

<p>Pitzer college has been ranked 1255 out of 1259 in term of “Most Drug-Free Campuses”. Really bottom of the pit, there are only 4 other colleges in the whole nation that are even more infested than Pitzer. It has also been ranked 1195 of 1244 for “Best Schools for Non-Drinkers”.</p>

<p>In regard to “Least Peer-Pressured Students” it is ranked 1192 of 1249. You can find these rankings and more under “View more rankings . . .”.</p>

<p>I visited this campus several times (I live nearby) and I have never seen so many students who were high or drunk attending a class, hence their apathy and “lack of motivation”.</p>

<p>Need I say more? I rest my case.</p>

<p>P.S: I am not blaming the students, kids sometime do stupid things. I blame the administration for not only allowing such behaviors to continue for years, but even more shameful ignoring the problem and sweeping it under the carpet.</p>

<p>Read more: http://**************.com/pitzer-college/#ixzz2Siy1ImyS</p>

<p>The quote above from a post at college prow ler dot com was outed as made by a ■■■■■. A students at a school like Pitzer do not receive more Fullbright Scholarships per capita than any other college or university over the last decade by being apathetic.</p>

<p>Pitzer College students are far from apathetic. The kids are serious, motivated, donate more time for volunteering than is imaginable. They tend to be passionate and committed to issues of social justice and the environment. The school this year accepted only 14% of their applicants.</p>

<p>Pitzer is known for academic excellence, but also is part of 5Cs, community awareness (students annually complete 100,000 service hours), value of world citizenship (77% students study abroad), science (has a 81,000 sf building with 14 discrete degree programs), and acheivements such 134 Fulbright Scholar Fellowships. </p>

<p>The rest of your diatribe is silly factoid logic. I am not quite sure if you are just regurgitating content from the book, which the reference link does not work, or you are agreeing with these objections and using substance from the book for your contentions? As a graduate of Pitzer with many post-graduate degrees thereafter, I can attest that drug use at Pitzer is not much different than other schools. </p>

<p>Drinking, lazy, apathetic? Not a theme I experienced at Pitzer. There are always a few outliers at school that fit this category, but that is a narrow bandwidth and not indicative of Pitzer’s culture. </p>

<p>I don’t quite understand the criteria for ‘least pressured’ students, but the workload was heavy when I attended. I was Economics for my concentration and there was not even a grading curve applied, as students were prepared, engaged and acing the exams. We also had to pass a comprehensive exam for that degree covering everything we learned over the four years. Perhaps you are better served by visiting the school for yourself. </p>

<p>I doubt your objections are consistent with Pitzer being ranked 35th by US News World Report, #8 Most selective Liberal Arts School, #1 in Fulbright Fellowships among all undergraduate colleges nationwide, etc. These trends are a testament that students being accepted to Pitzer College strive for academic excellence; but from my viewpoint, also demonstrate socially responsible services to others, world citizenship and environmental awareness.</p>

<p>Thank you for refuting #2 post. I know very little about Pitzer and good thing that impression was not left to stand uncontested!</p>