<p>Yes I am sure the MSU grads working for Apple are working in their retail stores.</p>
<p>If you really don’t care what anyone thinks, you would not be responding to everyone, nor would you be obsessed with these empty notions of prestige.</p>
<p>But good for you with your prestigious career. You are clearly very happy with your life.</p>
<p>“And in case you haven’t noticed, that’s not something I care about. It’s a freaking internet message board. I don’t know anyone here, and hence you are irrelevant to me.”</p>
<p>Yeah… the six consecutive posts you made in response to everyone clearly shows you don’t care at all…</p>
<p>But, ah, yes. The attitude that the majority of 14 year old internet badasses share. “It’s the internet, so, like, I’m not obligated to be, like, a pleasant person or anything because, like, you know, it’s not like they’re REAL people I’m talking to, like, you know dude?!?!”</p>
<p>Guess what-- In the “real world,” including the world of jobs and careers you consider yourself such an expert in, you have to deal with people you don’t know and who don’t know you on a daily basis. For your sake, I hope you aren’t even 10% as unpleasant in those situations as you are here.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>and let’s be honest. You should be happy engineering students decided on engineering. I mean, we’d just take all the business student’s positions in programs and best jobs…</p>
<p>I mean, poor engineering students drop from engineering to business, not the other way around</p>
<p>Right. I mean, let’s all get this out in the open here</p>
<p>Geez - he’s two years out of college, he doesn’t know crap.</p>
<p>What have you guys turned my thread into!?..Lol Jeez calm down! People fight about the stupidest things! 0.0</p>
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<p>I know a graduating senior that will be doing investment banking at Goldman Sachs.
But he wasn’t in Ross. He’s a Chemical Engineer. Plenty of my engineering friends drop in on the Ross recruiting events. And a couple of them ended up doing consulting/finance related internships from some reputable companies. </p>
<p>An engineer may be able to do about 1/3 what a business major can, but a business student will not even come close to what an engineer is capable of.</p>
<p>“I mean, poor engineering students drop from engineering to business, not the other way around”</p>
<p>Lol sure. Get real. Even at michigan engineering, the best and brightest either go work in silicon valley, or go work at trading desks (HFT, MFT, prop shops, market makers, banks), or Mckinsey/Bain/BCG. Have you seen where the longest lines of the best people are at the career fair? It’s almost always Bain and the prop shops (the bulge bracket banks don’t attend). </p>
<p>[America’s</a> ‘Brain Drain’: Best And Brightest College Grads Head For Wall Street](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>America's 'Brain Drain': Best And Brightest College Grads Head For Wall Street | HuffPost Impact)</p>
<p>[How</a> Elite Colleges Still Feed Wall St.'s Recruiting Machine - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/04/30/how-elite-colleges-still-feed-wall-streets-recruiting-machine/]How”>How Elite Colleges Still Feed Wall St.'s Recruiting Machine - The New York Times)</p>
<p>“The list is a snapshot of where America’s best and brightest are going to work after graduation. Instead of enrolling in medical school or putting their engineering degrees to work designing or building things, these bright minds are headed for Wall Street – and, like the MIT students who took Las Vegas, figuring out ways to bring down the house.”</p>
<p>Look, as an engineering grad myself, I turned down offers for MSFT, AMZN and Cisco for wall street. I just don’t want to subject myself to 90k all in first year, and then probably 5% raise a year, topping out at 150-200k years later, answer to an MBA who doesn’t know shyt, when I could have a much better trajectory working with the best and brightest as a quant in finance, where your work affect decisions managing billions of dollars.</p>
<p>“Yeah… the six consecutive posts you made in response to everyone clearly shows you don’t care at all…”
Was my posts made to improve my “not most loved” status? I am just defending my points, which I care about, because I am right.</p>
<p>“Yes I am sure the MSU grads working for Apple are working in their retail stores.”
I am almost sure more MSU grads work in apple retail than the best apple jobs (product development/corp strat)</p>
<p>I know current top people at Apple (managing large groups and heading up key projects) who did not graduate from college at all. Before his death, that group included Steve Jobs. </p>
<p>A degree from a prestigious college is helpful, but neither necessary nor sufficient.</p>
<p>Bearcats, I meant drop to a business degree</p>