<p>I've been hearing that the class size for princeton will increase this year due to the opening of a new residential college. Will the increased class size be in effect this application cycle? Is this true, and what is the expected class size increase? How will this effect ED and RD admissions?</p>
<p>good question...i would like to know the answer too...</p>
<p>By "this year" do you mean for the Class of 2010 or the Class of 2011?</p>
<p>By this year, I mean the class of 2011</p>
<p>"In 2007 and 2008, when Whitman College is expected to be open but Butler College will be undergoing renovation, the size of the entering classes would increase by another 50 students, to 1,276. The class admitted in 2009 would finally reach the steady-state level of 1,312. After four classes of that size are admitted, the undergraduate population would reach its projected level of 5,200 in the fall of 2012."</p>
<p>So they ratchet things up to match Yale, eh? They can't go to the 1600 Harvard-Stanford model?</p>
<p>And is admitting additional kids in order to complete with HYS? </p>
<p>Isn't this class increase supposed to also be for SCEA?</p>
<p>More students is generally a good thing. Lots of overqualified applicants get turned down simply for lack of space. Columbia also is supposedly thinking of expanding the size of Columbia College & SEAS as Bollinger leads the expansion into Manhattanville. </p>
<p>With regards to Princeton: The interesting thing to see is how Rapelye will handle the issue of transfer admission. Hargadon was, of course, not in favor. It's been something like 16 or so years--perhaps more--since Princeton last accepted transfers. The opening of Whitman College and a relaxation of restrictions against study abroad may change that.</p>
<p>zephyr--The Princeton trustees made a recommendation in 2000 to increase the size of the student body (here's a link if it still works <a href="http://www.princeton.edu/pr/news/00/q1/0131-wythe.htm)%5B/url%5D">http://www.princeton.edu/pr/news/00/q1/0131-wythe.htm)</a>. A number of reasons were mentioned, but I don't remember anything about SCEA.</p>
<p>Ivyleaf--in the Trustees report, there was a mention of the possibility of admitting a small number of transfer students after the class size was increased, so apparently the school is considering it (I'm hoping that Byerly will resist the temptation to mention--for the 50th time or so--Bill Foran the football player who reapplied to Princeton as a freshman, but I doubt he can restrain himself).</p>
<p>I think the class increase may get hampered when most of Butler, except for Bloomberg Hall, Walker, and possibly one other building, are being torn down by autumn of 2007. Even though Whitman College is going to be fully functional by then, I would have to predict that Princeton will not take significantly more students until the new plans for Butler College are completed.</p>
<p>Isn't that what I just said several posts earlier?</p>
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<p>Do you have a source for this? Columbia expanded its student body in the late 90s but I'd be surprised if it was considering doing this again. As far as I know, few if any of the proposed uses of the Manhattanville campus would be primarily for undergraduates, and housing is always a crunch as it is...</p>
<p>"All these things weave together: larger student body, larger faculty, more space in which to conduct our work," said Mr. Bollinger, who wants the campus to expand into Harlem over the next 20 to 30 years [...]</p>
<p>To stand among the very best universities, Mr. Bollinger said, "requires more international students, more courses, more opportunities for students to be exposed to the world, development of new kinds of research capacities."</p>
<p>Ah yes, but that doesn't inecessarily imply anything about the undergraduate population.</p>
<p>There is an ambiguity in the article as far as whether the "larger student body" and "more international students" are undergrads or graduate students or both to varying extents.</p>