<p>I'm looking at undergraduate business schools, and as I applied, I viewed Indiana University's business school, Kelley, as a safety. After further consideration, Kelley's business school has become increasingly attractive. USNews has ranked it in the top 10 for Accounting, Finance, and Management, all majors I am considering (looking for career in banking, consulting, or management). Overall, it is ranked 11th for business. Indiana does extremely well in terms of job placement, at 93%. I was looking at the hiring companies pages on Indiana's website:</p>
<p>Listed are several names that I did not expect, including Delloite, Merrill Lynch, JP Morgan, etc. Even Goldman Sachs and UBS make appearances.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Indiana's kelley school of business has relatively low requirements - the school is everything BUT prestigious, with an average ACT of around 25-26. </p>
<p>So my question is, should IU be added to a list of semi-target business schools? It seems that many of the top firms are in fact recruiting there. How does Kelley do so well while their students are in general of lower caliber? How would you compare Kelley to Ross, McIntire, and UIUCs business program?</p>
<p>To be completly honest, Kelley is going to be a reach. I’ve known a couple people get accepted into Kelley, but their ACT’s were 28+. Kelley is a very good business school and probably the best out of those. Another thing the way your viewing Indiana University is incorrect.Indiana is a very excellent university.Its not like its a community college in terms of prestige. I live not too far from University of Michigan and it would not be worth extra money vs Indiana University.Places such as JP Morgan arent going to hire just because you got a certain name on a piece of paper.</p>
<p>Wait, what? Maybe I wasn’t clear. I’ve already been accepted to Kelley. I have a 4.6/3.9 GPA and a 31 ACT… Not sure how this appears to be a “chance” thread.</p>
<p>In comparison to other targeted business schools, it has pretty low prestige. They actually tell you that you will be accepted with a 28 and a 3.8 GPA. </p>
<p>I’m honestly quite confused on what you’re saying. You think Kelley is better than ross and mcintire? And obviously JP Morgan recruits there, as I posted.</p>
<p>Sorry I misread the thread. Kelley is in no shape or form a terrible choice for business school. Kelley is one of the best. Yes I think Kelley is better than Ross. I live not far from UM, they live on saying its university of michigan- when its just a name, they arent as good as people claim. Look at the dumbasses whove went there- Tom Brady hahhaha enough said.</p>
<p>I’m not saying I’m obsessed with prestige, but it definitely does matter in the business world. Especially with the identified careers that I’m pursuing. I was simply pointing out one of Kelley’s weaknesses in comparison to many of the top 10 b-schools. </p>
<p>Although I would prefer to save money, I will not be taking out any student loans. I can afford all of the schools I listed.</p>
<p>Guess I should been a bit nicer. Point Im trying to say- give Kelley a chance and try to be in the top part of your class and youll be just fine. Kelley’s a fine business school…and top ten does not always matter or mean better. Most people will think highly of Kelley because it does prepare you and you shouldnt have any problem getting a job.</p>
<p>Well yeah, I am considering Kelley with Ross and McIntire for the reason that it is an excellent business school. I don’t view Kelley as a significantly ‘lesser’ school. Although, I think the general public does. So that’s why I am interested in their opinion. I do not think the vast majority of people, including recruiters, view Kelley as the same level as Ross or McIntire. However, I would say that UIUC and Kelley are generally comparable.</p>
<p>Really though…unless your working on wall street, Ross wouldnt make a big split difference than Kelley. Theres people who have graduated from Harvard and cant find a job.</p>
<p>Yeah I’m not sure why Tom Brady was introduced to the conversation. Gotta be one of the best QBs in NFL history. Any more input on the business schools? :P</p>
<p>Also, would anyone weigh in on Michigan Economics vs Kelley? What would have a better career outlook?</p>
<p>I really don’t know anything specifically about either school. However it doesn’t matter what ACT score it takes to get in to a business school. What matters is how one does once they are in the business school. Please remember that the ACT is just one test. Also if you are going into business you are probably going to need/want to get your masters.
That’s the school your employers are really going to look at. Trust me no one cared where my husband got his undergrad all they cared about is where he got his MBA.</p>
<p>I think either school is fine. U of M may have a better name but is it worth the extra cost? I don’t know only you can answer that.</p>
<p>Kelly is a great business school, and IU is an excellent university. I also love the IU campus and Bloomington is a great college town. </p>
<p>If your intent is to work in IBanking, Kelly vs Ross is a no-brainer, assuming cost of attendance is not a concern. Ross is more heavily poached than Kelly by IBanks. If CoA is a concern, go for the cheaper option as Kelly is still a reasonable hunting ground. </p>
<p>Kelly vs Michigan Econ is difficult to compare. Kelly is a business program, Econ is a liberal arts major with a college of arts and sciences. The former is designed to prepare you for the workplace and the career office will be far more aggressive. The latter will be a more intellectually driven experience but the career office will not be nearly as potent. Employers will probably respect both degrees equally though, so it is harder to gauge. I would still choose Michigan Econ over Kelly if your intent is to work on Wall Street. IBanking is a very pretentious industry, and the Michigan name will probably serve you better in such an environment.</p>
<p>In an earlier post above, you said cost was not a concern and that you would not be taking out any loans. If that is the case, I think Michigan (Ross or Econ) would be a better option than Kelly. In the case of Ross, you will find a job with an IBank with greater ease. In the case of Kelly or Michigan Econ, finding a job in IBanking will be challenging and will require a great deal of initiative on your part.</p>
<p>I agree with your evaluation, Alex. I, too, thoroughly enjoy both Indiana and Michigan’s campuses. If I knew I would be accepted to Ross, it would be a no-brainer. But if I had to choose between Mich Econ and Kelley, I think I would prefer to save the ~100k (Indiana’s already given me 15k/year in scholarships). So it really all depends on whether or not I think I’ll be admitted to Ross. </p>
<p>I’m not sure of whether or not I really want to do IBanking - but I’m guessing the top consulting firms are also quite pretentious. </p>
<p>I’m also In-state for UIUC, so the CoA will be about the same as IU. It doesn’t seem that they’re really brought up often on CC. Any knowledge on how UIUC business compares to Kelley?</p>
<p>That is clear, barrk. Do you think that can be credited to a higher caliber student body at Ross? Would one be better off in the middle of the pack in Ross than at the top of the class in Kelley (while saving 100k)?</p>