Integrated Science Program *ISP* --What do YOU Know?

<p>Hang on, for clarification, you CAN apply to ISP if you are applying to McCormick right!?</p>

<p>I just discovered ISP today, and it sounds incredibly awesome. I’m considering chemical engineering and/or chemistry, but I’m afraid I’ll be torn between law school and grad school at graduation–I won’t borrow problems from the future.</p>

<p>I’m going to graduate from high school with 80+ hours of semester credit. I understand that NU will only accept an incredibly limited amount of credit, but I’m willing to give up junior-standing at other schools for a great undergraduate experience. Is there any chance that if I don’t receive credit toward graduation that I can receive placement? </p>

<p>Here are the courses I’ve enrolled in, or intend to enroll in before graduating from high school, and that are relevant to ISP:</p>

<p>BIO 111: General Biology I (Not sure if I can fit this one in)
CHE 205: Chemical Process Principles
CHM 151: General Chemistry I
CHM 152: General Chemistry II
CHM 251: Organic Chemistry I
CHM 252: Organic Chemistry II
MAT 271: Calculus I
MAT 272: Calculus II
MAT 273: Calculus III
MAT 285: Differential Equations
PHY 251: General Physics I (Calculus-based)
PHY 252: General Physics II (Calculus-based)</p>

<p>yeah ISP really isn’t worth it unless youre completely dedicated to going into a PhD program or something like that. Tons of drop outs, I applied and got rejected…thank god!</p>

<p>But can you apply if you applied to McCormick!?</p>

<p>Vhiremath4,</p>

<p>It’s pretty much impossible in 4 years. If you check out both curricula, you’ll notice you’d have to take at least 6 classes in your first year’s winter quarter. You’d be required to take Math, Physics, Chemistry, Computer, Engineering Analysis, Engineering Design & Commuinications. I did know someone that took 6 classes in a quarter before but she’s the kind of person that could get by with 4 hours of sleep a night. Can you? :)</p>

<p>Yes, I currently sleep on about an average 3 hours a night. So can I still technically do it? I could def get by on sleep deprivation. Seriously.</p>

<p>^not sure. i know people can do MMSS while in the engineering school (primary major is engineering, usually IE). so if MMSS allows it, maybe ISP does too. why don’t you email them?</p>

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Well, either your completely dedicated in a PhD program, or you drop out of the PhD program…so that makes sense.</p>

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<p>I’m not sure, but it doesn’t look like it works that way. I’d email them.</p>

<p>Is ISP basically a triple major in bio/chem/physics with a minor in math? Or does it focus on breadth rather than depth</p>

<p>^it’s more on breadth in an integrated manner rather than depth; most ISP majors double-major in another science or go to graduate school. the integrated approach gives them a fuller picture of how different science disciplines are related to each other. the courses are rigorous and more quantitative than the typical college bio/chem/physics courses.</p>

<p>I’ve taken more than 6 classes a quarter and got more than 3 hours of sleep…</p>

<p>You wouldn’t want to do ISP and engineering… that’s overkill really. Both are great programs, but if you want to be an engineer, you’re in McCormick, if you want to go into a PhD program, you’re in ISP or just Weinberg in general.</p>

<p>I don’t think you can physically do ISP and engineering. The course requirements are very seperate and there’s simply no value to doing so. If you are you interested in difficult engineering, you can do honors engineering courses freshman year, I’m pretty sure that in many ways it is harder than ISP. </p>

<p>As for aigiqinf, your prior courseload is impressive but either you’re brilliant or ambitious, and if you’re ambitious but not brilliant, I assure you that you will fall fast and you will fall hard. I hate to be such a downer these days, but as a senior in McCormick (who does very well, mind you), I’ve seen a lot of my friends who were badass in high school come to Northwestern and quickly become average and then below average. You may do well in the intro courses you’ve already taken, but when EVERYONE starts learning new things, if you’re lazy or complacent, you can fall behind real fast.</p>