<p>So I was recently told one of my parents was getting a job at an Ivy League University and that if they took the job, I would be offered admission to the school...Great! Well not really. </p>
<p>I was told a couple of weeks ago, long past its deadline. Now, I had been considering it pre-notification so I had already taken the preliminary steps of sending grades, SATS, etc to the school, everything but my application. </p>
<p>Realizing the problem, I decided to be ballsy and send in my application now wiht a nice little note attached telling them to please add it to my file even if they won't consider it...</p>
<p>now heres the question....if they get my app and when they do will they discard it or just stamp it late and add it to my file...</p>
<p>in my opinion if the first happens, my chances at admission are shot (even though I got a 35 on my ACT, but I digress)..if its the second option say someone from the medical school calls and says "hey we got this kid his dad is comng" maybe they will let it pass...who knows</p>
<p>You miss the deadline, you miss the deadline. It's as simple as that. I don't know about someone calling on your behalf. I don't know how they'd respond to that.</p>
<p>Wow - which ivy is that? I know Yale doesn't do that, altho one of my nephews was accepted the old-fashioned way, the younger one was not (and he wasn't exactly shabby), and my brother is a full professor and has been the chairman of a department for 10+ years, and developer of patents, etc for the univ...</p>
<p>Well, I'm not going to name the Ivy but its all faculty recruitment....I'm not worried about this at all, I don't plan on going if I get in, since I have been accepted to a few other schools that I like more and are considered "New Ivy's"...its just a question...but I'm not sure what will happen....I know my dad will flip **** lol</p>
<p>seriously, what ivy IS this? i know lots of students whose family members are professors or work for recruiting at nearly every ivy (with harvard being the only one; none of my friends seem to have relatives in high places there) who have been turned down by the ivy. and if you really don't want to attend, why bother submitting anything? it's extremely late already and you've been accepted elsewhere. at this point, it sounds like you're applying just to be able to say you got into an ivy league school...never a good reason to apply.</p>
<p>If the school told your parent that you would get in if they took a job there (which seems weird since how do they know that you even remotely have the credentials....unless they already talked with admissions?) then obviously, you would be out of the mainstream, and whoever was responsible for hiring your parent would intervene with admissions......Why wouldn't you ask your parent this question, not cc'ers. He/she would be in a MUCh better position to answer this......</p>
<p>I guess it has a lot to do with tuition benefits: children of the faculty usually get tuition free (or considerably reduced) at that particulr school. Considering faculty salaries (not high enough to easily pay for an Ivy but high enough not to get any aid) it is a major issue. Thus, schools would usually give some extra consideration to the kids of faculty WHO OTHERWISE QUALIFY to get into this school. But the edge in admission is similar to what legacies get, bigger only if your parent comes as a Department Head or a full Professor. It is possible that they asked for your stats BEFORE indicating they will take you. They are very likely to let you submit your application after the dealine - you now have a good reason to apply. But after that your application will be reviewed, and admissions is under no obligation to accept you. However, if your app is too weak for them they may signal right away, before your parent accepted an offer.</p>
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I got a 35 on my ACTs and had a D, C-, C-, C+ on my junior year transcript and got into a pretty damn good school...
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since I have been accepted to a few other schools that I like more and are considered "New Ivy's"
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<p>Hum...You got some D,C-,C-,C+ on your junior year. You must be really fortunate to get accepted into some New Ivy. Now you claimed that you have ticket to a Ivy too. It is just hard to believe. What a lucky man! :) Good luck in your decision!</p>
<p>Just another bit of info re Yale - not only were my nephews not given any extra consideration such as legacy, but there were also no tuition benefits. The nephew that got in had a 2400, a 4.0 and had a patent of his own based on an original math formula - he's now doing a PhD Physics fellowship at Johns Hopkins....this is definitely a kid who would have gotten in any event. My other nephew, while having very high SAT scores, had a 3.6 and no notable accomplishments, probably due more to his interest in philosophy. He's a kid that certainly would have survived and excelled at Yale, but they did not make any allowances for him in light of his father or brother's accomplishments at the school.</p>
<p>My sister is a long time Yale employee. It used to be that children of Yale employees accepted to Yale got full tuition waivers to Yale or any other college in a group that shared employee reciprocity--she cannot recall the name of the group. But they were all similar private colleges who all honored the tuition waver among employees. Now they have a more general waiver up to $13,000 for tuition as outlined in the above link. She thinks the program changed about 4-5 years ago?</p>
<p>MattsMomFL:
There are tuition benefits for faculty (and their kids) at Yale, they cover only undergraduate studies though. Graduate education is essentially never covered because by that age your kids are over 21.
And you cannot say that your nephew was not given any additional consideration. Yale would usually reject a legacy with a "3.6 GPA and no notable accomplishments" regardless of his SAT. So was he. As I said - the edge is minimal. Basically it means that a child of a faculty with a 2350+ SAT, a 3.9+ GPA, and excellent essays and letters will not be rejected just because his ECs do not "stand out".</p>
<p>sunnyflorida - Well, he hadn't been there for 6 years when Nephew #1 was accepted, and I guess they never updated me later that there were any benefits - I just heard them moaning a lot about tuition costs! Where does your sister work? My bro is at the medical school/hospital.</p>
<p>Citymom, Wow, a legacy status means a lot less than I previously thought! There really isn't much of an edge at all. I thought it was more akin to athlete or URM. And, I'm fully aware under normal guidelines that a 3.6 is as lousy as having no ECs. Btw, my bro was not a graduate of Yale, so there was never any expectation that nephew #1 or 2 would be considered in this light. Both boys knew they had no added advantage because of their father's job.</p>
<p>MattsMomFL:
Just keep in mind that Ivy League graduates tend to value good education and have an opportunity to give this education to their kids. So their kids usually come from good school, and with good test scores and GPAs, and even with decent ECs (just because they were sent to music, ballet and tennis lessons at the age of 5). Since the schools keep the size of the class roughly the same, legacies could fill it completely every year if they were given a considerable advantage. Absolutely the same is truue for faculty children: on average they are good, and there are several thousand professors at each school</p>
<p>I doubt that it would happen at this stage of the process. </p>
<p>At many schools as previously mentioned, children of the faculty and staff get tuition remission benefits and even these benefits vary by school. For example tuition remission benefits at Columbia starting from day one (they pay 100% for Columbia and its affiliated schools and 50% at any other college) where you have to have a few years in to get full tuition remission at Cornell.</p>
<p>While facbrats do get a tip in the admissions process, the college is still not going to admit a student that the don't believe can do the work.</p>