Anybody else happen to see this? Popped up on my social media feed today. Lots of schools that are frequently discussed here. But it lists acceptance rates for the university as a whole… which, as we all know, are not even SORT of a reflection of BFA acceptance rates.
I’ve seen it. One of the first things that came to my mind, in fact, was how misleading it was to ONLY include the acceptance rate to the university as a whole, not to the MT or Acting program.
I didn’t find it all that helpful generally speaking, to someone exploring college programs.
I thought it was nice that they listed some grads from the past 10-15 years and not just famous grads from way back when.
Kinda weird some missing schools like CCM and BOCO, for example.
Someone I know shared that article. My first thought was 1) acceptance rates listed aren’t accurate for MT AT ALL 2) it’s so misleading too that it’s from Broadway worlds site which a lot of kids and parents who are not aware are going to read and take as an accurate article. “ well if it’s on Broadway World it must be true” etc
These lists are beyond annoying. Always have been. I know so many kids this year who chose their schools that they auditioned at & some who based their final decision solely on “ well they made that list so it must be a good school” .
It seems like they’re lots of inaccuracies in this as those before have pointed out. I didn’t look really closely at every entry, but even NYU’s class size is way off. It listed 10-30 students which is no where near the true class size for all studios. If just the new studio, I think it’s still small. Don’t they take something like 60? Makes me wonder if the other class sizes are accurate. I am also interested in how alumni are listed as a mom of a kid at Molloy/CAP21. CAP21 generally claims some of the same alumni as NYU since CAP21 did the studio training for NYU til 2012 or 2013. That’s got to be confusing for people starting out on their journeys when alumni show up under two schools’ alumni lists.
@speezamom The class sizes provided in that article are referring to average class sizes in the classroom at the university. These stats do not reflect the acting/MT stats themselves.
That said, even if class sizes listed truly were for the MT program, “class size” typically refers to in the classroom. So, for instance, in studio classrooms at Tisch, the class size is typically around 15 students.
@speezagmom - my D was never in a theater class with more than 15 people her entire 4 years at NYU. Some studios do have up to 60 in their Cohort (and I believe the New Studio takes the biggest group, not the smallest) - but you are divided into groups. D always liked that every semester they mixed the groups … so you aren’t with the same 15 people in every class for 4 years.
But back to the articles themselves… even the full college admissions stats aren’t correct. NYU was 19% last year, and 16% this year.
@speezagmom I don’t see that as particularly confusing. I’d like to think that anyone looking into Molloy/CAP21 will read up on the program and find that it is a newer program in conjunction with Molloy, but that CAP21 has been around a long time, and was once affiliated with NYU/Tisch. I think both NYU and CAP21 have a right to claim their alumni. For example, my own daughter went to NYU/Tisch and trained in the CAP21 studio, the studio she was admitted into. She did switch to ETW studio for her final 3 semesters. Anyway, I have seen my D listed as an alumni on certain webpages for NYU and I have seen her mentioned by CAP21 online too. NYU certainly can claim her as an alum as her degree is from NYU and she attended all of NYU and not just her classes in CAP21 studio (there are many other required classes outside of studio). Her degree is from NYU Tisch School of the Arts, not a CAP21 degree (not mentioned anywhere on the diploma). CAP21 deserves to claim her or anyone they trained when affiliated with NYU because they indeed trained these alumni, even if not with Molloy. Their affiliation with Molloy is pretty new and they would have too few successful alumni to claim if limited to the years they trained Molloy students. Just my view.
I am on the fence about random school lists - I agree they shouldn’t be the reason you go to a particular school but I also think going to a well-known and reputable program will help your resume more than an unknown. But then again, my kid goes to NYU so it’s easy for me to list “well known” as a plus, lol. Each to their own. @toowonderful and @speezagmom may be talking different measures of “class size” - the freshman class size is large, but individual class sizes are small. And NSB is actually the largest studio, they took 65 freshman last year.