Interesting Ranking Question about NYU

College Search & Selection
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<p>NYU is currently ranked 32 on US News.
Many people on CC say that NYU's ranking is hurt by some of the other schools in the university like steinhardt or lps...
What do you guys think NYU's ranking would be if it was only: Stern, CAS, and Tisch... The acceptance rate for those three schools are between 20 and 25%.. stern being the lowest..
while the other schools in the university are significantly higher in acceptance rate..</p>

<p>i know rankings arent everything and programs at Stern, CAS, and Tisch are some of the tops in the country.. but I am just curious to know what NYU's overall rep would be if they didnt have some of their lower tier schools.</p>

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<p>There’s a lot of other factors that determine the school’s ranking but I’m sure that partner schools are taken into consideration. I would expect for NYU rankings to drop even more after its acquisition of Poly. </p>

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<p>exactly… so why are they doing that?? expanding and losing quality… </p>

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<p>$$$.</p>

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<p>I believe that USN ranks Poly separately, as it’s considered an affiliate [see</a> here](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/polytechnic-institute-of-new-york-university-2796]see”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/polytechnic-institute-of-new-york-university-2796). It’s kind of like how Barnard is an affiliate of Columbia, so the two schools are ranked separately - but SEAS is not ranked separately from Columbia College, and Tisch is not ranked separately from Stern.</p>

<p>Honestly, that’s the way rankings work for any national university. By default, some of the divisions are going to be better-reputed or better-ranked than other divisions, which is why if a student is interested in a university like NYU - where you are a student of a particular school, rather than just of the university as a whole, and where transferring schools may be just a difficult as transferring to another university altogether - they should consider the strength of their particular program/school and not just look at the lump-sum and non-useful overall ranking that USNews spits out (which, I also have to say, is completely determined by what U.S. News puts in. Some of the things that U.S. News uses in their regression analysis may not be important to you as a student. For example, U.S. News says they use alumni donations as a proxy for student satisfaction, but this is a terrible proxy, as there are a lot of reasons a person may not donate to their own college. What it actually seems to do is keep wealthy schools with wealthy graduates near the top of the list).</p>

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<p>yeah i guess that is true… every institution will have their goods and bads… its just that nyu’s seem more drastic than others… i honestly believe if nyu was only stern, cas, and tisch… it would be a top 20 university</p>

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<p>“expanding and losing quality…”, Dropping a few ranks on the US News doesn’t mean that it’s losing quality. Furthermore, down the road, 20/30 years from now, it will be considered as a positive move… long terms goals…</p>

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<p>PINYU completed the merger into NYU as NYU’s engineering division early this year, so it would not be surprising if it were no longer listed as a separate school in college listings and rankings for the next academic year. The affiliate status was only a temporary status through the merger process.</p>

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<p>The way USNWR is set up to prop up private universities, I doubt it will affect NYU much at all. </p>