Interior Design Skills Development in High School

<p>Hello All,</p>

<p>I've got a daughter who is a rising Sophomore. As her parent, I'm obviously biased, but IMHO she has very good drawing skills, and has been taking private art lessons from a retired art instructor. She has a portfolio of sorts, but I noticed that many schools don't require them. She's an honors student in the Art program at her school, but I got her to modify the courses as far as taking 3 years of a language. I knew this would fulfill the language requirements in most schools. She just completed her Freshman Year with straight A's. She's a very organized person, much more so than I. She must get that from her mother. So when she tells me that she's really interested in Interior Design, and she has good math skills, I immediately think why not try architecture. I'm a database administrator, so knew little about what Interior Designers did, but after beginning to look around on this forum and others, I've got a better handle on just how rigorous a major (and potentially lucrative) it is. In fact we're heading out to the University of Cincinnati's DAAP for a walkthrough/familiarization program on August 5th.</p>

<p>What I'm wondering now though is what extracurricular Interior Design related skills/studies she might want to focus on, so that when she begins her college career, she can have a little bit of experience under her belt. One example that I came up with in regards to interior design might be a furniture design/building class. Another might be rough carpentry related. If you all have any suggestions, I'd appreciate it. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but when I saw a short video on an ID Studio project, it looked like knowing how to build furniture etc, might be a good idea.</p>

<p>Thanks in advance. By the way, I just went through the college app process with a son who's taking aerospace engineering. A much less vague area to me at least, since is math, physics, chem followed by more math, physics, chem, followed by applied math, physics, chem.</p>

<p>I just wrote this whole thing and noticed you want interior design, not industrial design, correct?
if you say ID, it is INDUSTRIAL, chair, car, soap dispenser, pots and pans.
interior design is fixture and placement of walls, floor, cabinets, counter tops, drapery and such.
if there are furniture involved, my guess is which of make and what color to pick or upholstered with then where and how to place it in the room, not building the chair itself with a hammer and a saw. if you have to built anything, you’d hire someone doing that for living for your clients.
I never looked into it myself but was told you shouldn’t become one if one is colorblind.
I assume you’d need portfolio, if you want to go to selective art school besides DAAP.</p>

<p>Yes, Sorry for the confusion Bears. I’m still learning how to support her. It is interior design. I also wrote to the person in charge of Interior Design at Unive of Cin, Jim Postell, and he said the following:</p>

<p>"The skills that are good to pursue are several;

  1. drawing / sketching
  2. artistic making - wood working / ceramics / sculpture - any hand-based skill
  3. photography
  4. communications skills - public speaking and writing
  5. broad appreciation for history
  6. good introduction to psychology / sociology
  7. certainly math above Algebra 2 and 1 year of physics (both required for admission)</p>

<p>I recommend the services that can help students do well on either the ACT or SAT tests - doing very well on one is necessary.</p>

<p>I would be most interested in taking a look at her portfolio.</p>

<p>Best wishes!</p>

<p>Jim"</p>

<p>Very interesting that he emphasizes history and other liberal arts areas of study. I like that.</p>

<p>hmmmm
somehow I feel that taxguy (do you know who he is?) found his successor.
lucky school DAAP U Cinn is.</p>

<p>Heh, I do know Taxguy through his postings, but there are several other posters who are helpful too, including you, Bears. My daughter and I are at the very beginning of the whole process for her, but UC does seem to fit in both geographically and via the academic rigor of her desired program of study. We will, of course, be checking out other institutions in the time we have.</p>

<p>I can understand some of the requirements, but a year of physics?? Is that so you know what will happen if you put a too heavy valance up and gravity takes over?? LOL</p>

<p>redbug
that’s DAAP to you!
I like that attitude and my kid passed a year of physics at his art voc school (physics for dummies!?) but never the mathB (algebra2) so would not qualified to apply.
taxguy also said in somewhere U Cinn is sort of careless in what kind of state or program kids are from, as long as got what, 3.7 and up GPA? it does not matter how rigorous physics class have been.
it works favor for hard working, not-overpriveraged, also well planned from freshman academics wise- kind of kids.
I went to see it just to honor taxguy and I could see that what DAAP is trying.
never the RISD of midwest, but every people’s art school where your hard work is rewarded(and luck being born in-state), plus football and all that fun.
I am reading a biography of Bill Watterson and thinking, it got to be Ohio thing!!
<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1441106855/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link[/url]”>http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1441106855/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link&lt;/a&gt;
He was raised, learned (Kenyon) worked, retired in OH.</p>

<p>Red, the year of physics was an admissions requirement, and is a standard part of most HS curriculums, so I’m not worried about that. I also noticed that UC’s degree is a BS in Interior Design. That too is interesting. I admit to being a bit confused as to why some of the degrees being offered are BFAs and others aren’t and what that implies.</p>

<p>@Balthezar. A generalization about BFA’s vs. BA’s and BS’s is that BFA’s at stand-alone art schools almost always imply that 60-75% of the courses will be in art and design studio courses. And BFA’s at “general” colleges and universities will typically have about 50% of credits in studio courses. A BA “art major” at a general college will usually have about 30-40% in studio courses – while general college and university curricular requirements, including general education, will take up the rest of the credits.</p>

<p>For this reason – the depth of studio coursework – a BFA is a “preprofessional” degree while a BA in art is not (or not necessarily). (I’m not speaking specifically about UC but about art and design programs generally. Also of note, a full-fledged architecture degree is a different matter in that it’s typically a 5 year program, not 4.)</p>

<p>My daughter earned a BFA in industrial design (ID) at RISD. It was the second most intensive major there – after architecture. </p>

<p>My general thought is that you have yourself an artistically talented daughter, but that it’s too early to focus on a particular college major. She has 3 years before she even would enter college. All art programs have an intensive foundation year which provides an opportunity for the students not only to develop their skills (perhaps with foundational studios in 2D, 3D, figure drawing, and color) but also to discover what they’re really interested in majoring in. A good target for your daughter would be to look for one of the intensive summer precollege programs (of which there are several very fine ones), where she will have a chance to further develop her skills and also, in a sense, test her interests in different disciplines and be able to convince herself of her talent in comparison with other students. </p>

<p>Also, it’s always good when applying to art schools or programs to have some drawings “from life,” including human figure drawing, in one’s portfolio.</p>

<p>When my daughter entered RISD she was initially thinking of majoring in illustration – or at least an applied design field, as opposed to fine arts. She was on verge of making that decision when an advisor – who was actually a specialist in illustration – commented that she “really gets what this discipline is about” and she “can always do illustration,” but she should try something that draws on more of her skills, though still on the commercial or design side of things. And so she tried ID, and it stuck! This allowed her to do some things that drew on her special talent for seeing and working in 3D.</p>

<p>She also developed a strong interest in sustainable design while at RISD. And while at the time the program didn’t give much emphasis to this dimension (things have improved a lot over the last 10 years), this is an interest that she took out of college. And when she began working freelance in ID (and also on some illustration and related activities), she also discovered that she enjoyed and was very good at organizing larger projects and initiatives. This led her to (surprise to us) . . . a desire to earn an MBA so that she could affect the green design strategies of large-scale consumer goods companies. So, BFA to MBA, a highly unusual track but very logical to her, and now she’s working in the design division of a very large international company, in which her combination of skills and interests is very rare, but she has managed to put them together.</p>

<p>This is all a long way to say that IMO the most important thing you know about your daughter is that she has talent (and that she’s interested in developing it). And it’s really great that you’re willing to promote her interests and explore the best options for her. A lot of parents have no clue what to do when they discover that they’ve got an artist on their hands. Next, IMO, is allowing her to develop a range of skills and try out various media and disciplines before settling on her major. A good way to start that may be in a pre-college summer program after her sophomore year (she can do it after junior year as well). My daughter did hers for two summers at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago, but there are several good programs including RISD, MICA, CMU, Pratt, and others.</p>

<p>What you’re saying about your daughter’s non-art coursework is really really important. Not only math and science, but also social studies. In my daughter’s case when she began to prep for the GMAT (required admissions exam for MBA programs) she had not taken any math courses since high school, i.e., almost 8 years earlier. But at least she had a foundation including algebra and calculus and an ability to work at a high level on both sides of her brain, and she took a couple of math classes to prep herself for the GMAT. Had she not taken advanced math in high school she probably wouldn’t have been able to make the career transition that she’s made. (A lot of students who decide they want to attend art school prematurely abandon their study of science and math in high school.)</p>

<p>I’m sorry for being so long-winded but I don’t post here much any more and I was struck by your opening post. Also, I don’t mean to imply that my daughter’s career path is a model that a lot of others should follow. But I hope by describing it you will see how a young person’s interests may evolve, and that if your daughter works hard and is flexible and stays in discovery mode, then one way or the other she will find a way to use her talent.</p>

<p>Mac - well put, and an interesting story on your D’s path. D’s HS had an integrated science program, and she could not take stand alone classes until she was a junior and then opted for biology classes since that’s where her interests lie. Her GC was concerned she was not taking a 4th year of math, but D opted for another science class to give her GPA a break.</p>

<p>UC DAAP might just be the program for my D’s friend who wants to do graphic design but dad wants her to be an engineer. She’s in pre-engineering classes in HS and loves math, but hate engineering. But that’s another thread somewhere here!!</p>

<p>Mackinaw,</p>

<p>I appreciate the time you’ve taken to answer my question and offer your suggestions on how best to allow my daughter to develop and hone her talents and interests. I had looked into the summer programs offered at SAIC as a matter of fact, and it was just too late this year to gear up for them. Next year, it’s a definite.</p>

<p>Don’t get me wrong, I’ve got three children, and I realize they change their minds all the time. While we recognized my youngest daughter’s artistic side very early on and tried to encourage her and afford her opportunities to develop it, her current interest is Interior Design, probably because she devours HGTV and DIY daily. That’s fine with me, and we’ll go from there. She’s in a general art program in high school that I’ve modified slightly to fulfill most college language requirements. Getting as many Gen Eds out of the way in HS (through APs, etc) are key from both an economics standpoint, as well as allowing her to begin to focus more quickly on her chosen major.</p>

<p>She may change her mind, possibly several times, before finally settling on a “best fit” for her, and that’s fine with me too. I’m trying to encourage her current interest and get her focused on college. Many high school students don’t realize that they will be evaluated on just 6 semesters worth of academics, and those semesters fly by very quickly. So, going on a college visit, even as early as her rising sophomore summer, gets her excited about what she thinks she wants to do now, and focuses her on college, putting into perspective that high school is a stepping stone, albeit a very important one.</p>

<p>Finally, I understand your admonition not to lock her in at this early stage. I do self-checks on that all the time. I’ll let her explore, and discover her own way in the world, making sure she realizes that whatever she chooses will take a lot of hard work, but that if she loves what she’s doing, she won’t even notice.</p>

<p>@Mac: thanks for your sharing! So many valuable point in your post. You are right it is very important to have a well round high school education. I have several friends even highly recommend good liberal art school for artist and designer. Thinking broad and deep humanities and science can lead to big success … your D’s career path is amazing.</p>

<p>@Balthezar: Best wishes, my D did SAIC after her sophomore year and my plan is let her try CMU after junior year. But she said I already took one to feel what the college like and why took another one ?! It saved my money though. SAIC precollege opened her mind for sure. All her pieces done there get highly appreciated in later portfolio review.</p>

<p>mackinaw!!! you are around!?!?!?!
last time I heard was when D decided to go back to school.
glad to hear all turned out perfectly.
If I remember correctly, part of the reason to get masters is she missed academics chunk during RISD and somewhat wanted to make up for it?
it is good that old-timer parents come back and tell what happened afterward.
what I liked about you is you never bragged nor too complacent about D doing and you paying for the RISD, and sort of expected and accepted however she’d change her way.
wink wink worried_mom?
artmommy?</p>

<p>I just looked at the DAAP requirements for art, rather than design programs. For those BFA programs, a candidate is required to have 2 years of high school science (with no requirement of physics) and it seems to say that one could be deficient in this area. So, maybe Redbug is correct and the heavy valance is key!</p>

<p>taxguy did also say, art and planning (one A and P out of DAAP) are stats-easy to get admitted. not all DAAP is created equal, hemm??</p>