.International and YOUR grades.

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<p>What are YOUR high school grades like? In the US, an 'A' grade is considered 90% and above, but at many international schools, 70% or even 65% is considered an "A". Having B's or a few C's (even at A Level , O Level , etc.) is not necessarily considered a disaster, especially as the international educational system is much harder. </p>

<p>Also, in the US they have variances like "A plus" and "B minus" and the difference between a "plus" and a "minus" grade can be a very huge one - whereas international grades tend to be strictly A, B, C, D, or E.</p>

<p>If you are applying to top schools and Ivies in the US, what are YOUR highschool grades like? Do you have any C grades on your transcript? Most importantly, do you think colleges in the US are aware of these subtle differences? Would it be OK for an international student to have a "B" at O Level, whilst for a 10th grade student in the US, a "B" on their transcript could equal automatic rejection?</p>

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<p>here u can get an F for our schools' math papers and easily get 800 for sat math. dunno if the us unis know that. but i suppose if ur an intl u'll be competing with other intls so it doesnt really matter.</p>

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<p>Here in Quebec:</p>

<p>90-100=A
80-89=B
70-79=C
60-69=D
0-59=F</p>

<p>It's also pretty damned hard to get over 90%...that's usually reserved for the top 5-10% of the class (at the private schools I know/go to).</p>

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<p>I'm a Korean. Grading system same as jpps1.
Actually, I don't think US universities would consider international school grades as heavily as american school grades... you know, some schools really are generous and some are the opposite (especially internationally, you don't know the limit! everybody can get an A, or nobody ever can get an A) My opinion is that for internationals, standardized test scores are somewhat more important than school grades.</p>

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<p>in toronto
A=80-90
B=70-80
C=60-70
D=50-60
F= the rest</p>

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<p>Ontario
A+=90+
A=84-89
A-=80-83
B+=76-79
B=73-75
B-=70-72
C+=66-69
C=63-65
C-=60-62
D+=56-59
D=53-55
D-=50-52
F=49 and below
I think Ontario has pretty much standardized grades for public schools at least. However, depending on the teacher you can get screwed, for example one teacher gives 97s in English if he likes you or 88 if he doesnt while other English teachers have never given above a 90 EVER!!!
Averages around 90 is reserved for about 5-10 kids a year out of about 250 at my school and thats quite consistent from year to year</p>

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<p>And your grades? Relative to the ranges in your area, are your grades mostly A, B, any C's?</p>

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<p>I got all A+s, except for two As (88 and 87) in gr 9 where my average was 92.9% (3rd in my grade) and then in gr 10 my average was 96.2% (1st in grade ang highest average in the school)</p>

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<p>India, for us the grades vary for different subjects,</p>

<p>for eg,
math - A - 90+
English - A - 80+
Physics - A - 90+
Chemistry - A - 85+
Computer Sc - A - 92+</p>

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<p>Russia:
5 - excellent
4 - good
3 - satisfactory
2 - bad</p>

<p>How easy or hard it is to get a "5" depends on a school.</p>

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<p>I invented a simple formula to convert Indian marks (40+ pass) to grades (60+ pass):</p>

<p>S = 60+((M-40)*(2/3))</p>

<p>M=your "indian" marks
S=your "canadian" marks</p>

<p>Just convert them to grades: 90+ = A / 80+ = B / 70+ = C / 60+ = D</p>

<p>Though hello is right, different subjects have different grading standards.</p>

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<p>For A-levels it's:</p>

<p>A - 80%
B - 70%
C - 60%
D - 50%
E - 40%
U - Anything below 40% is Ungraded, it doesn't deserve a grade!!!</p>

<p>It sounds pretty lenient compared to others but it's actually not. But then again, school grades on reports are decided by teachers on an individual basis. My AS level Business teacher was sooo tough I got E's and was still the top-grader in Business. It all paid off when the whole class got As and Bs (I think there was 1 guy who got D) in their actual exams.</p>

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<p>here in Vietnam, it's not only different btw schools, but also btw subjects. In my school, grades are not so high (though our school is top). I think it's somewhat as follow (we don't use letter grading so I'm not sure):</p>

<p>A: 8.0 - 10.0
B: 7.0 - 7.9
C: 6.5 - 6.9
D: 5.0 - 6.4
F: the rest</p>

<p>it's easy to get an A in geography, P.E or mechanical engineering, but few have an A in literature. and sometimes, teachers in history or physics, math can be really hard graders.
We have 11 subjects each year. In grade 9, I got a straight A. In grade 10 (when I enrolled in my current school), I got 1 C and 2B. In grade 11, I got 2 C, 2 B (well, hope the adcom will understand my reason) and I will try to get only 1 B this semester.</p>

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<p>France
the grading system is out of 20
its tough to get above 15
15 converts to an A
i got all A+ except for two subjects (where i got A) :D</p>

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<p>In Poland:
1-6.
1. Unsatisfactory - below 50%
2. Satisfactory - about 50%
3. Fair - about 60%
4. good - about 80%
5. Very good - depending on subject, usually approximately 90%.
6. Outstanding/special - given only to those who score above 100% by outside-school achievements and additional knowledge beyond the programme. Actually it concern only some subjects: like physics, maths, biology, chemistry, computer science and some humanities. Other are generally neglected...</p>

<p>Hence the grades average of 5.0/6.0 is very good, and from 4,75 You get honours and scholarship :).</p>

<p>You have about 15 courses a year, during the 10th and 11th. There is no additional courses, and there is no possiblity of taking less. After 9th grade You have to choose profile: Maths-Physics, Maths-Informatics, Humanities, Social... and many more.
Mine is Physics-Physics-maths :). Which is quite unusual, since only two schools in Polnad have such programme.</p>

<p>Something like 0,001% [I really do not know, but something about...] have individual programme, preceded by psychological tests, additional letters to Ministry of Education and so on. So, yes, I had 16 subjects during 11th grade... :/ :/</p>

<p>Theoretically there is no possibilty of taking university courses. Hehe. </p>

<h2>If You will spend enough time asking lecturers for it... But it is unlikely that they will give You any grade, since it is unofficial, and they do not want to waste time for Your test [really].</h2>

<p>As You can see it is rather unorganised and everything is up to the teacher and school. The differences are HUGE. For example, my collegue from elementary school and scout troop who was nearly thrown out of the school [22nd in warsaw] to the worse one [something about 100th] and is the best student there with... 4,5 grades average... Comparing to his previous 3,0 it is a big difference.</p>

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<p>In my country (Slovenia, Europe) we have:
10: 92-100%
9: 85-91%
8: 75 -84%
7: 65 - 74%
6: 55 - 64%
0-5: fail
So is it right: 10=A, 9=B....???</p>

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<p>In New Zealand, they completely screwed the system by introducing NCEA.. You can get an Excellence, Merit, Achieved or Not Achieved. The thing is it's dead easy to get Achieved but really hard to get Excellence, especially if it's assessed externally. Very communist.</p>

<p>My international dean just asked all my teachers what my performance was like in a 4pt-max scale, and I sent that to the universities together with my NCEA results.</p>

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<p>A: 80-100
B: 70-80
C: 60-70
D: 50-60
E: 40-50 [Fail]
U: 0-40 [Fail]</p>

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<p>yeah in Canada they're pretty harsh and arbitrary. When I was there in a pretty crappy public school in the heart of Cote de Neiges Montreal, I had the highest GPA which was a 92-93. There were only like 3-4 As(American As) outta 500 people! BTW, The system was
86-99(A)
so on
BTW, it was impossible to get a 100. It gets converted to a 99 even if u had a 100. Happened to me in math class.</p>

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<p>In Scotland, we have "Highers", graded:
70% A
60% B
50% C
Less than that is a fail, although 40% is considered a D, which I guess must be a 'good fail'.</p>

<p>That may look really low, but annually As only go to 14% of test-takers, compared with 20-25% taking A-levels down south in England. And you do 5 of them as standard as opposed to 3.</p>