<p>Hi everyone:</p>
<p>I read in another forum that</p>
<p>"So far only HYPM (Harvard Yale Princeton MIT) have extended their need-blind policy toward international students applying for financial aid."</p>
<p>Is this true? I know the wording is confusing, but I guess the author is claiming that international students are prejudiced against in financial aid. But aren't the Ivy Leagues supposed to meet 100% of need?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>No
Only HYPM provide need-blind bucks
int'l students are not prejudiced agiainst in fin.aid; other colleges just don't have that much of money</p>
<p>And Williams college.
And some say middlebury. (but the website does not say WE ARE NEEDBLIND TO INTELS.. it says it in weird twisted wording so I'mnot sure).</p>
<p>And there are doubts as to whether HYPM are "truly" need blind.</p>
<p>And Spectrum- take everything you hear on CC with a grain of salt and do your own research when the time comes.</p>
<p>I dont think the IVYs are all that stingy on aid, except perhaps Cornell. Im quite hopeful about the others.</p>
<p>This all depends on where you are from. The United States, Canada, and Mexico are catagorized as one region, where students applying to the 8 ivies benefit from need-blind financial aids. </p>
<p>Yet, if you are from another part of the world (China, India, Europe), you will be placed into another catagory (and this applies to the ivy admissions as well), and colleges (cornell, dartmouth, columbia, etc) clearly state that there IS A LIMITED FUNDING for these "second class" internationals, and those who apply may be held at a higher standard.</p>
<p>So are you saying that international students applying from the United States, Canada or Mexico get the same financial aid benefits as those applying with U.S. citizenship or Permanent Residency? Where did you hear about this? If this were true, it would certainly explain a lot.</p>
<p>Yes that is true. But what does that explain ?</p>
<p>Rishabh - Penn, Brown (although they claim not to be anymore), Cornell, Dartmouth, even stanford to a certain extent, are not need-blind for int'ls. Penn explicitly mentions it on their website, and dartmouth has clearly mentioned that funding for int'ls is extremely limited.</p>
<p>almost all US universities are stingy when it comes to funds for int'ls. My personal experience tells me only princeton's truly liberal with those funds, but some might add HYM too... Cornell states explicitely that no aid is awarded to int'ls applying ED and only 10-12 scholarships are up for the grabs RD. If u have read the UPenn prospectus, u must have pretty much got what they're tryin to say,"No aid for int'ls". The situation is not different at other colleges too...except that they may offer slightly more, which still is not much.</p>
<p>Only a few top schools guarantee to meet 100% of need for internationals. Some of them only guarantee to meet 100% of need of domestic applicants. </p>
<p>So yes in a way international applicants are prejudiced against in aid. Schools are not entitled to pay for their education in any way and most choose not to.</p>
<p>Thats why I didn't apply to Penn and Dartmouth ;)</p>
<p>Come on guys, don't start crying about the aid part already . . be hopeful. Something good will happen to everyone. I know that. :D</p>
<p>Whoa... This information is really disheartening!</p>
<p>Are these Ivies still prejudiced if you are in the U.S. on a visa? So you are applying domestically, only without a green card.</p>
<p>Also, say you got into UPenn, attend there, and pay for the first year with your own allowance (right). Then in the begining of your sophomore year you got your green card. Would the school give you enough scholarship for your sophomore junior and senior years?</p>
<p>Penn is far from need-blind!! after applying, Penn even sent me a letter asking me whether in fact i could afford the entire fee! and if i could, i should mention so to increase my chances!!</p>
<p>i'm intl btw!</p>
<p>Penn sent me a letter reminding me how improbable it is to be accepted if I apply for FinAid. :)</p>
<p>i didn't apply to Penn, but my freind on applying got a letter like MIT_dreamer saying:</p>
<p>We hopw u would reconsider ur decision of aid...u stand a better chance without aid...but we're not discouragin u at the same time</p>
<p>its not actually disheartening news for some people...
for some absolutely stupid idiot who's dad's rich this means he has a better chance of an Ivy than IIT 1st ranker...hey...why's George 'Dubya' Bush's Yale stint flashin in my head as i type this???</p>
<p>I'm considered an international student at every location in the world-- with all its benefits <em>roll</em> so consider yourself lucky my friends, and good luck. :)</p>