<p>Believe me, IBclass, I’m just looking out for the bests interests of those people in Asia who don’t know any better. ;)</p>
<p>Football (soccer) is the most popular sport in Asia. The only country that I’ve been to whose people loves basketball more than they do football (soccer) is the Philippines. Football (soccer) in the Philippines is only played by a few. It’s nothing compared to basketball in terms of popularity. However, Filipinos don’t care which college basketball teams are the best. Filipinos only follow NBA. They don’t know about Duke. They don’t even know that it is a university. Duke for most Filipinos is a rank/position of person in English society (England).</p>
<p>Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Italy, UK, China, Japan, S.Korea, Taiwan – all love football (soccer).</p>
<p>During my days–1980s, back in China. What I knew about the US colleges:</p>
<p>MIT – because some top scientists graduated from there, no clues what MIT was.</p>
<p>Harvard – just the name, don’t remember why.</p>
<p>They were about equal, like two top Chinese schools, Qinghua and Beida, one was in engineering, the other was in science. It was a matter of personal taste.</p>
<p>Yale – not very much, maybe very popular recently because of the Bushes. the first Chinese student graduated from there. Big deal.</p>
<p>Stanford – The first when I heard it was when I was in a conference, they invited a guest speaker who got Ph.D. from Stanford. Maybe more popular recently due to the google guys.</p>
<p>UC Berkeley – as what the Chinese called it. Don’t remember why.</p>
<p>Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Columbia, Chicago – once again, don’t remember reasons why I knew of them, but one thing was clear, I had no clues what those schools were.</p>
<p>Princeton – often was credited with those people worked at IAS. It was hard to spell and pronounce in Chinese.</p>
<p>OK. I’m an Asian and I have to say Duke is not so famous in my country.
I hadn’t heard of Duke till my sophomore year, and the school which is famous for great med school is Johns Hopkins. (Now I know duke is superb, but anyway)
- Asians don’t really watch U.S college sports game. We watch NBA, and some baseball games (Major league games mostly), but college sports? that is just irrelevant to international reputation.</p>
<p>Harvard, Yale, MIT, Stanford, UCLA, UCB, NYU, BC, JHU, UChicago, Columbia, CMU
are quite famous while Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Princeton, Caltech, Northwestern, Rice, Georgetown, UVA, UMAA, Vanderbilt, WUSTL sound unfamiliar to most people.</p>
<p>Princeton, Brown, Rice, Vanderbilt, Emory, WUSL and most especially Dartmouth are practically unknown in many parts of Asia, even to the educated ones. Princeton though sometimes manages to attract a few of those that do their homework. </p>
<p>Harvard and Oxford seem to be the most well-known in many parts of Asia.
Of course, they are closely followed by UC Berkeley, Stanford, Yale, NYU, UCLA, JHU, Michigan, Columbia and a few more.</p>
<p>I agree with the above post. UC berkeley is definitely a school that is very well regard internationally. Same goes for UCLA but to a lesser extent.</p>
<p>Universities witrh the largest international student populations will tend to have the strongest international reputations. Those schools, all of which have anywhere from 5,000-7,000 international students, are:</p>
<p>Boston University
Columbia University
Harvard University
New York University
University of California-Los Angeles
University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of Southern California
University of Texas-Austin</p>
<p>There are obviously exceptions to that list. Some universities will have fewer international students and still enjoy excellent international reputations. Such universities as:</p>
<p>Cornell University (Engineering, Hotel Management and Sciences)
Georgetown University (School of Foreign Service and location in the nation’s capital)
Johns Hopkins University (Medical school)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Engineering and Science powerhouse)
Princeton University (top 5 US university)
Stanford University (Engineering and Sciences)
University of California-Berkeley (Engineering and Sciences)
University of Chicago (Intellectual think tank)
Wharton (not Penn mind you)
Yale University (top 5 US university)</p>
<p>I would say all those universities listed above enjoy the greatest international reputations. If I had to pick the 5 US universities with the greatest internationa reputation, I would say they are:</p>
<p>Harvard
MIT
University of California-Berkeley
Stanford
Columbia</p>
<p>Alex, for some reason, the following schools aren’t really considered highly respected universities internationally:
Boston University
University of Southern California</p>
<p>They do not “wow” people when you say you went to either of these schools.</p>
<p>BU, NYU and USC’s reputation internationally is more a result of their location in three of America’s most popular destinations.</p>
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<p>Sorry I’m gonna have to disagree with you there. Wharton is probably the most well-known part of Penn (though it could arguably be Penn Med), but even the word “UPenn” is more well-known in countries I’ve been to than the schools you mentioned as having the “strongest international reputation” like Boston U, UMich, UIllinois…</p>
<p>Although I think you are dead-on accurate in listing</p>
<p>Harvard
MIT
University of California-Berkeley
Stanford
Columbia</p>
<p>as the most well-known American schools overall.</p>
<p>UPenn. They play football in happy valley right?</p>
<p>Happy Valley is Penn State, NOT UPenn.</p>
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Indeed, Alex, I think you’re seriously underestimating Penn’s international reputation beyond Wharton:</p>
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<p>[Penn</a> Admissions: International Applicants](<a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/applying/international.php]Penn”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/applying/international.php)</p>
<p>And I would venture an educated guess that most of those international students are NOT in Wharton.</p>
<p>Also, see this nifty little pamphlet:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/applying/pdf/PennInternational_2009.pdf[/url]”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/applying/pdf/PennInternational_2009.pdf</a></p>
<p>Furthermore, Penn as a whole is ranked quite highly (#11 and #15 in the world) in these two high-profile international rankings, which evaluate factors far beyond just Wharton:</p>
<p>[Times</a> Higher Education](<a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/hybrid.asp?typeCode=243&pubCode=1]Times”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/hybrid.asp?typeCode=243&pubCode=1)</p>
<p>[ARWU2008[/url</a>]</p>
<p>EDITED TO ADD: If you’re interested in learning more 
, check this out:</p>
<p>[url=<a href=“http://www.upenn.edu/compact/globally.html]Penn:”>http://www.upenn.edu/compact/globally.html]Penn:</a> Compact: Engaging Globally](<a href=“http://www.arwu.org/rank2008/ARWU2008_A(EN).htm]ARWU2008[/url”>http://www.arwu.org/rank2008/ARWU2008_A(EN).htm)</p>
<p>45 Percenter and ilovebagels, I know Penn has a strong international reputation. I was not questioning that. Even if it weren’t for Wharton, Penn’s international reputation would be on par with Cornell andother elite universities. But wharton’s reputation internationally supercedes Penn’s reputation.</p>
<p>actually Purdue and Illinois have the largest international student populations in the US I believe</p>
<p>The big three Philly schools, Penn, Temple and Drexel all have great international reps because of the population of international students at the three schools.</p>
<p>Correct me if I’m wrong but in my personal experience, only the educated people have heard of UPenn. And even for some of them they believe that UPenn is a state university. Wharton, w/o any doubt, is a very prestigious name internationally.</p>
<p>“actually Purdue and Illinois have the largest international student populations in the US I believe”</p>
<p>Actually Pierre, it generally varies from year to year, but UIUC and Purdue do well in terms of international enrollment. However, USC, Michigan, Texas, NYU and Columbia do just as well.</p>
<p>Below are the latest figures published by the universities themselves:</p>
<p>University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign: 5,495
<a href=“http://www.dmi.illinois.edu/stuenr/country/countrysp09.xls[/url]”>http://www.dmi.illinois.edu/stuenr/country/countrysp09.xls</a></p>
<p>Purdue University-West Lafayette: 4,994
[Application</a> Dispatcher](<a href=“http://1061vweb15.itap.purdue.edu/cgi-bin/broker.exe]Application”>http://1061vweb15.itap.purdue.edu/cgi-bin/broker.exe)</p>
<p>University of Michigan-Ann Arbor: 4,990
<a href=“Office of Budget and Planning”>Office of Budget and Planning;
<p>I could not find official data on the other schools, but USC generally leads the nation in international enrollments.</p>
<p>One should probably take the time to distinguish between most international students by sheer number. At a 3000 person school, 20% international would be 600 students. At a 30,000 person school, one could have the same number with 2% international students. With a more normal 10% they’d have 3000 internationals…the same number of the entire student body of the smaller school.</p>