International Student Chances...

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Yea I know that intl. students have lower chance of acceptance than everyone else, but I'm not gonna ask for financial aid so I hope that'll help. </p>

<p>The first post kinda like died so...</p>

<p>please take your time and chance me! Please!</p>

<p>I'm a high school senior in a competitive public high school. (I don't know if it counts, but my school's like 30th public HS on US Newsweek ranking thing. Avg. school SAT was about 1200 old scale)</p>

<p>STATS:</p>

<ul>
<li>GPA:3.75 (don't know about weighted or uw)
School doesn't rank
*will rush report senior year first quarter grades and have GC explain why I got low grades year before.</li>
<li>SAT I: M 730 CR 660 W 700 2090 total</li>
<li>SAT II: Chem 720 USH 740 Math IIC 800</li>
<li>TOEFL: expecting good score (taking it since I came to US 5 years ago)</li>
</ul>

<p>Have taken 8 APs by senior year.</p>

<p>ECs:</p>

<p>*Chorus (4yrs) - The liaison (responsible for translating meetings, events, handouts for foreign students and parents. Also responsible for organizing major events), will sing for a big choral convention.
*Altar Boys (3yrs) - leader and senior of Altar Boys. responsible for assisting the priest. regarded as holy. rigorous training.
*Patient Support Services (4yrs) - teen volunteer. rigorous training to assist practically everyone in the hospital. Bunch of badges for services and achievements.
*Small Business (4yrs) - own business translating almost any text for a nominal fee or no fee (for financially challenged people). I wish I could translate at courthouses for poor people, but can't. rules or w/e...</p>

<p>Summer Activities:</p>

<p>*Boys State - Selected as my high school's representative to Boys State of America. Leadership position held (City Council).
*County Executive Leadership Program - selected as rep. of my school to county leadership progm for a year. part of the prgm is summer internship at the government center. soley completed major projects.
*Korean Embassy - Intern at Korean Embassy in DC. responsible for database, making Visa, Passport services. Rigorous training.</p>

<p>Awards:
*Chorus awards - Madrigal Choir, Select Choir, Men's Choir awards since 9th grade. (all of them either 2nd or 1st place with superior ratings). 1th grade, Disney music festival, received 2nd (select choir) and 3rd (men's choir) in the category and in the whole regional festival.
*American Legion Citizenship Medal - I hope too many Asian international students have gotten this! One of the highest honor an individual can receive during Boys State.
*St.Paul's Award for an outstanding essay (essay contest)
*1st place in an essay contest held by Korean Daily and other educational institutes (big Korean community thing)
*Academic letters, honor rolls, blah blah blah.. the usual stuff
*Junior Award for students with extraordinary talents (school wide, very prestigious)
*top 5% in the nation in AMC 12 thereby -> AIME qualifier.</p>

<p>Recs:</p>

<p>*GC rec - GOOD expecting good rec. knows me very well. knows my background, knows almost everything about me.
*1 teacher rec - GOOD knows me very well. shares common interests. likes me. got good grades.
*2 teacher rec - DECENT knows me enough. knows how hard I worked to earn good grade in her AP eng class. impressed her a couple times with scores, essays, etc.</p>

<p>Essays:</p>

<p>*Had peer reviews and had teachers proofread and critique it. Everyone commented that it is a VERY good essay. (just got it reviewed yesterday) several layers that convey my life in a day's experience.</p>

<p>EXTRA:
*Korean
*Will not ask for financial aid.
*Taking SAT I again in Nov.
*Plan on getting stellar first quarter senior year grades and express it to college for ED/EA.
*EC may not jump out, but did best I can in things I'm passionate about.
*International Relations major (or minor a.k.a. concentration in Cornell's case)
*limitation to activities, competition (offered internship at NIH, but rescinded b/c i'm not a citizen or perm. resident other opportunities missed), but did my best to make the best out of whatever I have.</p>

<p>What are my chances at </p>

<p>*Cornell ED
*University of Michigan RA
*Emory-Oxford college EA</p>

<p>RDs </p>

<p>*Princeton (I know high reach, but has been my dream school until I realized that my GPA and SAT are kinda low and that intl. students have lower % of acceptance.)
*UPenn or Columbia (at which one do I have higher chance of getting in?)
*Notre Dame RD (apprently doesn't offer EA to intl. students..)
*Columbia
*Johns Hopkins
*Georgetown
*UC Berkeley and UCLA
*UVA
*U of Wisconsin - Madison
*James Madison</p>

<p>Thanks SOOO much!
I really really appreciate it.</p>

<p>and sorry to people who have already responded to my other posts. the other one died off...</p>

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<p>bummmppppp..... please</p>

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<p>bummpp.........</p>

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<p>wowser147:</p>

<p>UCB/UCLA: Reach (out of state)</p>

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<p>Since you know t's harder for internationals, how are you expecting to get into schools where your stats are below average? Especially considering you're an Asian international? With 433 posts, you should have a good idea.</p>

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<p>how are his stats below average? his GPA and SAT scores may not be stellar, but considering the fact he hasn't been in this country all that long, I'd say they are pretty good, and admissions officers do take your background in consideration. he didn't cure cancer, but his ECs are definitely above average. plus he will not ask for financial aid, so his international status won't hurt him and may even work to his advantage.</p>

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<p>There are tons of Asian internationals who've never set foot in the states with much stronger stats.</p>

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<p>thanks you letmepass for your understanding.
but
bobby100 isn't wrong. yes I do know that I don't have the strongest scores or GPAs. I am retaking the SAT this Nov and am having my GC explain my grades. I know that adcoms might not even give a crp about it, but still. worth a shot. So I have my fingers crossed.</p>

<p>As most colleges require, I am taking the TOEFL because my CR score isn't over 670. I know TOEFL scores won't replace the CR score, but at least adcoms will know that I haven't been learning English that long. (started learning Eng 5 years ago. seriously. impressed all my English teachers. although my AP english teacher isn't that much impressed right now :( ) </p>

<p>anyway, thank you for your opinions.</p>

<p>Ivies do say that although they are need-aware for intl. students, it will be a benefit for those intl. students if they do not require FA.</p>

<p>any comments on chances?</p>

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<p>bummppppppalicious...? lol..</p>

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<p>bummmpppppp...</p>

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<p>Cornell ED--Match to Slight Reach (closer to match)
University of Michigan RA--Match
Emory-Oxford college EA--Match to Slight Reach (closer to match)
Notre Dame--Match
Princeton--reach
*UPenn or Columbia (at which one do I have higher chance of getting in--Penn, unless you are applying for Wharton)--Penn is match to slight reach, unless applying for Wharton, which is a reach
*Columbia--reach
*Johns Hopkins--slight reach to reach
*Georgetown--match to slight reach
*UC Berkeley and UCLA--Slight Reach (OOS)
*UVA--match to slight reach
*U of Wisconsin - Madison--safety to safe match
*James Madison--safety</p>

<p>P.S. You need to mellow out--you'll get into a lot of these schools</p>

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<p>thanks soo much</p>

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<p>retaking sat in nov wont be on time for ed</p>

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<p>cornell accepts rushed scores... so...</p>

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<p>bummppppp....</p>