International Student- Needs Info Please

<p>Hi guys. My name is Arjun. I'm from Australia, and I've been hearing about UM Ann Arbor for a while now. They seem to have a very strong academic ranking and curriculum which I am interested in. And Ann Arbor sounds like a great little town.</p>

<p>I'm not going to bore you guys with another "What's my chances" thread, but I just need some sort of indication of how hard it is to get in if you're an international student. Is there anywhere where there is some stats for this sort of thing?</p>

<p>Just so I can assess MYSELF what marks I need to get.</p>

<p>Any help would be just awesome!</p>

<p>I'm a Singaporean student, not applying to UMich but here's what I have to say.</p>

<p>If your academics/SATs are up to par, you can get in easily. The scientific agency which grants college scholarships often sends students to UMich (those who can't or don't want to go to MIT, Cambridge, etc)</p>

<p>This is the website of the best high school in Singapore. Please get it right, it is by NO WAY an accurate representation of overall international admissions. However, Michigan is viewed as a safety school by many in Singapore.
[url=<a href="http://www.rjc.edu.sg/USapps/Colleges/rjcrecord.asp%5DUSapps%5B/url"&gt;http://www.rjc.edu.sg/USapps/Colleges/rjcrecord.asp]USapps[/url&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/p>

<p>fiona, Carnegie Mellon had a 75% acceptance rate and Cornell a 59% acceptance rate. I suspect that Engineering applicants get accepted at a very high rate, but Arts and Sciences applicants do not. According to the chart, only 17% of applicants to the college of Arts and Sciences were admitted, as opposed to close to 100% of the applicants to the College of Engineering. That could be because Singapore has excellent science offerings in high school and the applicants to the CoE are extremely qualified.</p>

<p>I found this eval sheet for international students on UMich's web site:
<a href="http://admissions.umich.edu/docs/Freshman_Application_Rating_Sheet.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://admissions.umich.edu/docs/Freshman_Application_Rating_Sheet.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I also found this on UM's website: Office</a> of Undergraduate Admissions: Requirements</p>

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Admission to U-M is very competitive. Almost 71% of entering freshmen are from the top 5% of their high school classes. They challenge themselves and each other while enjoying the countless opportunities to learn. Our review of each application is holistic and comprehensive. Grades and test scores are very important, but we also consider many other factors such as your national system of education, the type of institution you attended, the quality of your achievement, and the suitability of preparation for your proposed program of studies. We also consider your level of English language proficiency. If you have had an irregular academic background or have been out of school for three or more years and feel that you would be successful at U-M, please submit a detailed description of your specific qualifications.

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<p>Please check this website for information specific for countries:
Office</a> of Undergraduate Admissions: Requirements</p>

<p>For US students, the admit rate is 42%, the average SAT score is between 1920 and 2180, the ACT is between 27 and 31, and the UW GPA is between 3.7 and 4.0. I would think that the average mid-50% for internationals should be higher, and the admit rate should be much lower, but if your school is considered competitive (aka those in Singapore where primary and secondary schools are among the best) your chances will be higher. </p>

<p>I hope this info helps!</p>

<p>Personally, my advice for any student - including internationals - is to apply as soon as possible, because UMich does use rolling admissions, so the earlier you apply the more likely you'll get an admit.</p>

<p>Fiona. That list is from the "best" school in Singapore. I would imagine that the entry rates would be very high from some place like that. But as Alexandre pointed out, not everyone attending college wants to go into engineering. Michigan is NOT a safety school for almost anyone from OOS or out of the country.</p>

<p>Alright, so I can see it's pretty tough. I saw that sheet on the UMICH website, and it says that it also grants some special category for geographically under-represented areas. And by GPA seems to be that high as well, or atleast it should be by the end of next year.</p>

<p>Thanks guys!</p>

<p>I agree with you arjungamer123. Being from Australia should definitely be a bonus in your favor. :-)</p>

<p>Yea Michigan needs some ppl from Australia!! =-) </p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Anyone from here go there?</p>

<p>If you do, could you ask fellow current international students what they needed to get in?
What did you need to get in?</p>

<p>Sorry for being such a prominent question-asker.:P</p>

<p>The only problem I have now is that I haven't done 2 years of the same foreign language. That much of a problem?</p>

<p>First of all, US universities do not have any "standard" entrance requirements. As such, it is not possible to really estimate one's chances or what is "needed" to get into Michigan. Obviously, A students (3.8+ unweighed GPA) with strong SAT/ACT results (1450+ out of 1600 on the SAT or 32+ on the ACT) have a good chance of getting in. Students with B+ (3.5 unweighed GPA) or less averages and not so strong SAT/ACT results (less than 1200 out of 1600 on the SAT and less than 26 on the ACT) have virtually no chance of getting in. Students in the middle have moderate to good chances of admission.</p>

<p>As for the foreign language requirement, if English is not your native language, you obviously do not need to take Foriegn Language in high school since your mother tongue is a foreign language. On the other hand, if your native language is English, you have to demonstrate that you have taken enough of a foreign language.</p>

<p>Oh that is just so freaking awesome!</p>

<p>Hindi is my mother tongue (even though I'm very "rough" in it nowadays, but its not hard for me to get back to my old best in Hindi xD), so it should be no problem?</p>

<p>You should be fine. Contact the university once you have sent your application to make sure that they know that your mother tongue is Hindi.</p>

<p>Thanks heaps Alexandre!</p>