I just wanted to know, are there uni’s in the US which make SAT optional for international students?
I’m not talking about uni’s that are optional to all, but uni’s that make it optional to only international students.
I’ve heard UWashington and NYU don’t require it.
Are there more?
Yes, inexplicably, there are many. It is inexplicable (to me) because schools often require only the Toefl for international students. But the TOEFL only assesses competency in English. Even the producers of that test state clearly that it is not a substitute for SATs or ACTs. I think it is one way for some schools to accept International students who would test poorly on the standardized tests.
Opinion: I think it is outrageous that some state schools require more of tax paying US residents than it requires of International students. We have state residents rejected on the basis of credentials not even required for International students…outrageous! I don’t care as much about the private schools because US residents are not paying their hard earned tax dollars (as much) to keep them running.
“some state schools require more of tax paying US residents than it requires of International students”
Which states do that @lostaccount?
@lostaccount
Whoah! calm down!
Here is University of Washington’s fees:
-Instate: $27,000. If you live with parents, it drops to $19,000
-Out of State: $49,000
-International: (drum roll)...$67,000
Do you see that MASSIVE increase in tuition fees for international students? What they are trying to do is attract wealthy international students. And please keep in mind that international students get ZERO(0) financial aid from UW. This basically means International students pay in FULL all of that 67000 for 4 years which amounts to ~$270,000 from each and every single international undergrad at UW. This does not only benefit the school, but also the government.
And not only that, the wealthy students are more likely to give back to their alma maters’ as they are already influential.
International students are very important to the US economy.
Anyway, back on topic, Any uni’s that don’t require SAT for international students?
Those universities typically consider that having ALevels, the French bacc, the German Abitur, and with what score, is far more indicative than a 4-hour multiple test. Many developed countries have a national education system with national boards so that it’s easy to compare students. Nyu for example only accepts these national board exams and requires another form of testing, including the sat, if the country doesn’t have national testing.
Try checking out some test-optional universities… George Washington and Virginia Commonwealth Universities are some, but idk their policy for international students.
thanks @sona7662
But i’m looking towards a little higher tiered universities. You know, on par with NYU or something
Here is one list of test optional institutions:http://fairtest.org/university/optional
In addition to that list, many places do not require the SAT or ACT for international students who submit the TOEFL. Some places will accept scores on national exams from other countries instead of the SAT or ACT. Many others will admit without even a TOEFL score provided the student has completed the highest level of ESL classes offered at the intensive English program at that campus, or through a well-recognized organization such as ELS Language Centers that offers courses at multiple locations.
Contact the international admissions offices at places that interest you, and ask them about their specific policies.
VCU is not a top-tier school, but George Washington is definitely a great high match/low reach school if you can’t find any other non-SAT schools to apply to.
Bruh, I’m an Indian dude with a 4.0. How more common can i get? lol
I wish Asians weren’t so smart.
Anyway thanks again @sona7662 and @happymomof1
I did pretty bad in my SAT exam i did last year…i got 1840. I guess because international students don’t focus on english much i guess?
Tulane’s test optional for international students.
1840 is a decent SAT score, and is good enough for admission at a lot of places. If you are willing to look at places that aren’t the very top of the heap, you will have options.
katliamom, New York does not require SATs or ACTs of international students.
VCU is a top tier school depending on major. For example its premed program is renowned. And its VCUARTS school is ranked as the #2 school in all of the US . Yale is #1.
What’s wrong w/ LACs? There are a lot of great LACs that don’t require SATs. Bowdoin, Wesleyan, etc.
Your attitude and wording are very off-putting. You sound very immature and condescending, seemingly unaware of those flaws or perhaps playing with them to rile people up.
If that’s not what you want to convey, work on your wording and think of the mindset they convey before you post.
Being the creator of a (culturally unknown) sports league and being a political activist is good, but so far you’ve listed colleges that aren’t very holistic. These EC 's would play best at universities like Brandeis, Macalester, Vassar…
What do you call 'politically alarming stuff’s? Because described thus, it REALLY doesn’t sound like an EC you’d want to mention in an application, so I’m guessing you don’t mean that. What do you do exactly?
Sorry @MYOS1634
I would never even mention my writing on my college application.
Does not matter where you write or what. Read post 16 several times over. And over again.
What you write is VERY COMMONLY discussed on many us campuses.
So basically you defend dictators and communist regimes. Yet you want to study in the US. See the irony?
At the same time, many Americans and students in particular aren’t blindly changing their country 's the best. I would hope that their arguments would be a bit more sophisticated than yours but I’m guessing you’re a junior so you’d be pretty typical for your age group. As long as your advocate debate, and not violence, being an activist is positivelybseen. Of course debating online doesn’t Being an activist means taking concrete actions to change something such as access to water, minority rights, etc. And making a measurable impact. What you’re doing is share your opinions and defending them, which is fine but not ‘activism’.
It’s okay though - as I said, it’s very common among educated teenagers to take a political position such as yours, then debate it.
A few courses will help you get some perspective on very different situations (IE., Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, North Korea.) If you’re able to sustain more than rants, you’ll grow from these classes.
Rather than Berkeley (the sixties were 50 years ago and hippies don’t really live in Berkeley anymore, their remnants may be found at Marlboro, Humboldt, Evergreen, Hampshire…) look at Macalester, Brandeis, American U, Oberlin, Vassar, Occidental, gwu, Dickinson, Hamilton, nyu… for vigorous political discussions.
Avoid TAMU, Washington and Lee, Birmingham Southern, Florida Southern, Byu, and evangelical colleges such as Grove City or Wheaton.